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Posted by D.E. on 10/17/21 11:27
"FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> schreef in bericht
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> Morton Davis wrote:
>> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127355874.925156.176270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hardly a justification. Being the owner of something means you can not
>> > only set the price, but also decide whether to sell or not. If I
>> > decide to steal a car, the fact that the owner hadn't put it on the
>> > market doesn't change the fact that I've just taken a car that isn't
>> > mine. There are many compelling arguments for distinguishing file
>> > sharing from theft, but this is not one of them. Also, simply being
>> > out of print (thought they had a different term) doens't mean out of
>> > circulation - old record stores, individual collectors, E*bay offer a
>> > few of the avenues for obtaining hard-to-find music.
>> >
>> However, none of the artists get a red cent from the sale of used music
>> or
>> videos. So what's the beef?
>
> Every time you sell an old album or tape or whatever, you're basically
> selling that one album. When you share files, you're keeping the
> album, and generating copies of it - becoming essentially a new
> publisher of it, and affecting any plans the rights-owner may have to
> publish it again, or sell it somewhere down the line.
Actually in my country, the netherlands, I can go to my local library take
out
a CD and copy it for my own use, totally legal.I just return the cd to the
library
I can even borrow a record from a friend, copy it for my own use and return
the original
and it would be totally legal.As long as I do it myself for myself by myself
I life in such a great country did you know that?
That must really piss you off, hahahhaa, you asshole.
>> Also, with sattelite radio and stations playing CD quality music, what's
>> the
>> diff if you record to a CD off of the radio or DL it?
>
> To be honest, this may be the killer part of the argument. I simply
> don't know because I've never tried satellite radio or even internet
> radio. If you really can get CD quality sound recorded in its pristine
> digital state, then much of the rationale used against peer-share just
> dries up. That said, and with satellite and webcasts becoming more
> common, why hasn't peer-share declined? I mean, if this is such an
> effective substitute for peer-share, why hasn't it actually substituted
> for peer-share?
because you have to wait for the song to come along, but on the internet you
don`t.
You can use programs who search the schedules of that station and sift out
the song you want
and you can then download/capture the stream.
>> What does it matter if you record a movie off of HBO or DL it? Same thing
>> happens.
>
> Not unless your VCR actually starts distributing copies of what you've
> DL'd. Each videorecording off of HBO produces one copy. Peer-share
> has the effect of turning your PC into a big multi-tape recorder. Back
> in the days of WPN (only a few days ago) DL's had the added effect of
> facilitating additional DL's. Because each person DL'g a file was a
> potential Uploader, and with WPN's multi-source capability, the more a
> file was DL'd, every person with that copy of the file became an
> additional source who'd make it easier for successive Downloaders to
> get the file as well.
So? You just share the tape around in my country, and they may legally make
a copy
for themselves by themselves. It`s a bit more work, but they never stop us.
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