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Posted by Terry Pinnell on 09/30/05 13:31
Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>CQ <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <b42jj19vnemr21rvd41qvu7gq308oqajr0@4ax.com>, Terry Pinnell
>>said...
>>
>>> I've just noticed that I can add Release Date as a column in WMP9. Yet
>>> it doesn't seem to be a tag. I can't see it in Advanced Tag Editor.
>>> Nor is it a tag within my MediaMonkey player/organiser. So where does
>>> WMP find it? It can't be identical to Year, as that is blank in the
>>> tags I've tried, yet Release Date is present.
>>
>>I have no earthly idea what WMP9 is doing or where it gets its
>>information but the ID3 V2.3 standard states:
>>
>> "TORY
>> The 'Original release year' frame is intended for the year when
>> the original recording, if for example the music in the file
>> should be a cover of a previously released song, was released. The
>> field is formatted as in the "TYER" frame."
>>
>>http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0.html#sec4.2.1
>
>Thanks, appreciate that prompt and helpful reply.
>
>Presumably that badly constructed TORY definition means the following:
>The 'Original release year' frame is the year of the *original*
>recording. For example, it might be used if the music in the file was
>another cover of a previously released song.
>
>I'm still baffled why WMP9 has used it as an apparent substitute or
>equivalent for Year (TYER in the list). And where it got the content
>for TORY from.
>
>What prompted my post was that I'd just downloaded and installed a WMP
>'Decades Auto Playlist Pack', which I found linked here
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/mp10/getmore/plugins.aspx
>The download is
>http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/f/7/ff7a9eaa-782d-48a4-834c-0adeb267b25b/decades_autoplaylists.exe
>I opened one of these playlists in WMP9, and was pleased to see a
>selection of tracks from my music collection from that decade.
>
>But there was no 'Year' column for me to check that it was accurate.
>So I used the facility to add more columns. That's when I was
>surprised to find that there *was* no 'Year' field in the list of 46
>fields ('frames'?) I was offered. (I've listed them here in
>alphabetical order:
>Acquisition Time, Album, Album Artist, Artist, Bit Rate, Category,
>Composer, Conductor, Content Provider, Copyright, Creation Date,
>Custom 1, Custom 2, Data Provider, File Name, Genre, Group
>Description, Key, Label, Language, Last Played Time, Length, Media,
>Media Info, Mood, Parental Rating, Period, Play Count, Play Count
>Afternoon, Play Count Evening, Play Count Morning, Play Count Night,
>Play Count Weekday, Play Count Weekend, Protected, Provider Rating,
>Rating, Recording Date, Release Date, Size, Style, Subtitle, Title,
>Track, Type, Writer.)
>
>So instead I added Release Date, and found that every entry did indeed
>fall into its appropriate decade.
>
>I'd never been aware of the Release Date tag before, but presumably
>these tracks must have this tag completed, and this 'automatic
>playlist' utilised it to select the tracks. Yet, on the basis of the
>above definition, I'd have expected to see *other* entries based on
>those of my tracks which have the Year tag completed (either instead
>of or in addition to the Release Date). And I'd also expect to see
>some of these Release Dates in the *previous* decade (e.g. an original
>release in 1969, with a new 'cover' in 1970 or later). But I've
>examined every decade and none of the entries fall outside the
>respective decade.
>
>Any insights into all this would be very welcome please. Is this
>Release Date used widely, or just in WMP?
No one with any thoughts on this please?
--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
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