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 Posted by Phillip Kyle on 10/29/05 21:26 
ah <splifingate@gmail.com> verbally sodomised  in 
news:23e8f.31979$gF4.23048@trnddc07:  
 
> Phillip Kyle wrote: 
>> peterparsnip@gmail.com (Peter Parsnip) verbally sodomised  in 
>> news:djmbqc$46j$6@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:  
>>  
>>> Be still! and revere Phillip Kyle, who blessed us with their presence 
>>> on 25 Oct 2005... 
>>>  
>>>> peterparsnip@gmail.com (Peter Parsnip) verbally sodomised  in 
>>>> news:djlumc$set$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:  
>>>>  
>>>>> Be still! and revere Phillip Kyle, who blessed us with their 
>>>>> presence on 25 Oct 2005...  
>>>>>  
>>>>>> Ted Capuano <lx3nwn7@kzhg6.com> verbally sodomised  in 
>>>>>> news:ko0rl1tncp7t19943jqcndm65mj5ib0htb@4ax.com:  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:23:52 +0000 (UTC), "Richard Dewsbery" 
>>>>>>> <richard@dewsbery.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>Yes, it's that special time again.  So please do not feed the 
>>>>>>>>trolls. Particularly the cross-posting variety. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Are you the Richard Dewsbery who wrote this to the now exposed 
>>>>>>> private mailing list "ng_abuse"? 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <Quote> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> ISPs have to tread warily where posters using their services are  
>>>>>>> libelling other people.  Although I am not a media lawyer, I would 
>>>>>>> cite as authority for the proposition that an ISP can be liable 
>>>>>>> for acts of its subscribers the case of Godfrey vs Demon Internet. 
>>>>>>>  Although the case was ultimately settled out of court by Demon, a 
>>>>>>> first instance ruling had held that they could be liable for  
>>>>>>> carrying posts authored by a third party if they didn't remove the 
>>>>>>> posts when asked from the servers. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> The effect of this is to make all ISPs think carefully about 
>>>>>>> whether they want bloody nuisances as customers, as each time the 
>>>>>>> nuisance posts something insulting the victim can complain, and if 
>>>>>>> the message isn't deleted at source, the ISP gets to pay damages.  
>>>>>>> After a few complaints from different individuals, the ISP is well 
>>>>>>> advised to pull the account rather than risk missing a few 
>>>>>>> deletions and getting whacked by a High Court defamation suit. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I gather that some of the current crop of most virulent trolls may 
>>>>>>> be real people, with an academic access to the net.  Either the  
>>>>>>> academic establishment is acting as its own ISP, or it has an  
>>>>>>> outside ISP - it matters not, a few cease and desist letters and  
>>>>>>> either ought to pull the offenders' net priveleges.  Regardless of 
>>>>>>> what certain news server admins may think about it (letters  
>>>>>>> involving lawyers in suits usually end up on more important 
>>>>>>> desks).  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> What we need is concrete evidence of how the messages are being  
>>>>>>> posted, and by whom and to what servers; some innocent victims who 
>>>>>>> have been the subject of defamatory postings; and some sharply- 
>>>>>>> worded letters before action to the ISP or establishment through  
>>>>>>> which the abuse has been posted.  Sledgehammer to crack a nut, but 
>>>>>>> it seems that the only other solutions require us to put up with 
>>>>>>> the little gits.  I'll happily help out with any letters before 
>>>>>>> action - with the provisos that I'm not an expert on defamation, 
>>>>>>> nor will I be involved in any litigation either as claimant or 
>>>>>>> representative.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> </Quote> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Yes, he's also the kind gentleman who sent me this nice email: 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <Quote> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From :      Richard Dewsbery <richard@dewsbery.freeserve.co.uk> 
>>>>>> Sent :      Saturday, January 3, 2004 1:07 PM 
>>>>>> To :      <philkyle2003@hotmail.com> 
>>>>>> Subject :      Crossposting Twats 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>       
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>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Are you the twat that is cross-posting all sorts of garbage to half 
>>>>>> the UK newsgroups, or an unwittin g victim of some other twat using 
>>>>>> your website address?  
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> R M Dewsbery 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> </Quote> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Looks like a clown we should go after :-) 
>>>>>  
>>>> Indeedy. Let's just say URC for good measure. 
>>>>  
>>>> Imagine if I was a completely innocent poster with that email address 
>>>> and that landed in it. Do you think I'd reply?  
>>>  
>>> I can't help but feel that I would be committing suicide if my name 
>>> was R M Dingleberry. 
>>>  
>>  
>> I'm sure he got teased at school. I bet he became a hall monitor so he 
>> could wreak his vengance by being a jobsworth.  
>  
> 'jobsworth' . . . I like that. 
>  
> We never had anything like that when I was growing up. 
 
COunt yourself lucky. Lots of adult jobsworths as well. Most of them seem 
to reside in uk.*  
 
--  
Phil Kyle   
 
http://philkyle2003.reachme.at/ 
 
"The truly racist person is one Helene Rudlin, who admits it."  
	- Neil Barker <MPG.1c47999866a4baf798976c@127.0.0.1> 
 
"I wonder - is there perhaps some form of cosmetic surgery we can pay for, 
so that Helene can actually become a coon ?"  
	- Neil Barker <MPG.1c479b87e7a43ce989770@127.0.0.1>
 
  
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