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Posted by Ty Ford on 09/19/05 22:06
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:14:22 -0400, Specs wrote
(in article <432ef03e$0$97134$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>):
>
>> As for SUX, that's not what I'm saying either. Audibly compromised after a
>> full run through post and output to DVD? Let me hear the exact same audio
>> recorded at 48 kHz, 16-bit and maintained at that until the compression to
>> MPEG for DVD. Who knows, maybe that final dump to DVD (with its mpeg audio
>> will compromise the un-messed with audio enough so the two sound pretty
>> similar.
>>
>
> The vast majority of professionals that will use these cameras like the PD
> 150 before it. That is for ad-hoc interviews, interviews in cars and
> anywhere that's impractical to take a full size camera. The majority of the
> sound recorded is likely to be that of the human voice which is more than
> capably captured in MP2.
Maybe. If you were able to hear the two and compare, even you might be able
to hear the difference.
> There are two issues, firstly the ability to get HD video in those difficult
> situations out weights the compromise in audio quality. Secondly who the
> hell is going to do their whole programme's audio post-production in MP2?
> By the time an audio bed has been put under the MP2 derived audio it
> unlikely you'll notice any recompression artefacts down-stream. Its
> analogous to DV footage being placed into a Digibeta mastered programme.
Not it's not. That completely discounts the issue of audio data compression.
As smart as you appear here, how you could possibly make that assertion is
magical, and not in a good way.
> Taking your point to the extreme and MP2 after post productions was heard to
> sound like a long distance call to timbuktu I would prefer, as a producer,
> to get the interview above all else and if that means using MP2 audio so be
> it. Personally I'd rather not have to tell the broadcaster that I couldn't
> get my varicam in the passenger seat of the car so there's no interviews on
> the move or that when I went into Toxteth (a beautiful area of Liverpool) to
> get some interviews with drug dealers that they nicked my expensive camera
> so haven't been able to produce the programme!!!!!
The DVX100a, PD170 or XL2 would prevent that likelihood.
As I said before. We'll all vote with our wallets. My vote will be the XLR
rather than anything in the HDV format.
Ty Ford
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
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