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Posted by Smarty on 01/03/06 18:40
Nappy,
I would very much appreciate knowing which part of my claim is incredible. I
am not attempting to claim that anything is magical or that HDV is somehow
vastly different. My only point is that HDV is extremely stressing of
hardware, and that performance of many extremely capable platforms including
dual processor G5s, dual Xeons, etc. in HDV editing and rendering is
painfully slow. The performance issue is often glossed over by the software
developers and leaves the false impression that HDV can be edited without
major computer upgrades. Certainly Final Cut Pro Studio and Vegas fall into
this category. Scrubbing the time line or rendering are slow enough that
many users are very unhappy with performance.
I exchanged a series of emails with Jan Ozer who published a recent and very
comprehensive 4-part evaluation of the leading NLE editors for HDV in
eventDV Magazine over the last 4 months, seeking his impressions of
performance and speed issues in particular. He shares your belief (as do I)
that Ulead's Video Studio 0 product is indeed an amateur versus professional
product, and this is certainly apparent by both its' price and limited
feature set. He pointed out that Ulead's Media Studio Pro, on the other
hand, uses the same HDV plugins, and may be, in fact, the sweet spot for
both speed and features. I have yet to go that route, but imagine it may be
a reasonable step-up for those who are impressed greatly with VS( speed and
want to add more features.
I disagree with your statement that working with HDV is "messy and slow, and
working with it sucks.". I would be especially interested in knowing what
tools you have tried, and how they have failed to perform.
Thanks,
Smarty
"Nappy" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
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> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>>........he does not have the direct insight or experience to compare
>> HDV editing software.
>
> That is probably an erroneous assumption. There is no magic or anything to
> editing HDV. It is simply another codec. That's all. From reading Richards
> posts over the years I can assume he gets it. Clearly.
>
>
>>
>> If he had HDV editing software expertise, I would have let his comment
> lie,
>> even though it was a apparently intended to reflect his opinions about
>> "finicky" computers, older Ulead products, or something he now says is
>> not
>> specifically related to UV9 performance.
>
>
> ULead is not viewed as a professioanl app. There is a reason for that.
> And again.. HDV editing is nothing new. We have always been dealing with
> new
> formats as they arrive. Over the last 15 years there have been a few. HDV
> is
> just another codec. And one I don't intend to embrace. Its messy and slow
> and working with it sucks. On Any platform. I don't know what they were
> thinking.
>
>>
>> My intention is not to win an argument here. My intention is to give a
> good
>> product a bit of respect when it rightfully deserves it.
>
> No one asked you for proof of your comment. We accept it. Glad you like
> it.
> Although for many of us your claim _is_ a little incredible.
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>
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>> Smarty
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>> "Nappy" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
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>> > "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
>> > news:lcedndX8DbqzdyTenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>> >> Nappy,
>> >>
>> >> I don't think it is "rediculous" to ask for proof of a sweeping
> statement
>> >> which trashes a product.
>> >
>> > Well.. think about it a moment. Most of us watch these poor souls come
>> > through here with nightmares from these cheapo bundled apps. I have had
>> > ULEAD and Pinnacle stuff on my rigs in the last few years. Only to
> remove
>> > them because they failed to perform or made the rest of my setup so
>> > unstable
>> > it became unusable . I recall a recent bout with ULead's UDF driver
>> > mucking
>> > with my system in a very bad way.
>> >
>> > Don't be so defensive if someone else thinks the software you are using
> is
>> > trash. I think FCP is one of the biggest jokes ever . I own it. I
>> > bought
>> > the
>> > gear bought the Mac and bought the farm. After a few features we
>> > retired
>> > it.
>> > But nothing I ever used from ULead even comes close to FCP.
>> >
>> > That's just my opinion. They're like assholes. Everyone has one. Please
>> > don't ask for proof of that.
>> >
>> >
>> > nappy
>> >
>> > "I hate people who quote people in their sigs"
>> > - Ben Franklyn.
>> >
>> >
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