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Posted by Immortalist on 10/18/22 11:43
"Sven Hesse" <drmccoy@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
news:slrne2ggvo.8na.drmccoy@tchibo.coffee.org...
> Immortalist <Reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> By "original content" you mean what you see when you watch directly from
>>> YouTube via the flashplayer? If so, then "the quality can be adjusted
>>> higher" is just plain bullshit. When you capture the screen, you'll get
>>> images of an already (lossy) compressed video, (lossy-)compressing them
>>> again when returning these to a video will _never_ increase the quality,
>>> quite the contrary, it will reduce it severly...
>>> For me, as a "quality fetishist", it's downright not acceptable...
>>>
>>
>> True, but I am at least capturing that quality with a better bit rate so
>> nothing is missed from what is provided.
>>
>> Your wrong about the flash player though because the flash player is
>> similar
>> to any other player. I have learned to make a flash player call in
>> various
>> movies like .mov, .mpg, .avi, etc. Each time you click on the movie at
>> youtube the flash player is calling in the originally uploaded movie
>> file.
>> You may have room to compare the quality of different movie players not
>> the
>> original content that is called into it.
>
> No, what I mean was that the video you see on your end _is_ already
> lossy compressed (with a H.263 variant, according to Wikipedia's entry
> of FLV), capturing it and compressing it again will definitely reduce
> the quality. The quality _will be_ inferior to the straightly-downloaded
> FLV (which in turn itself is inferior to the original content the flash
> accesses quality-wise)...
>
True again, I am only getting the best quality I can get from "streaming
video" and its constraints. When I ripped this video from the windows media
player it was really good quality better than the flash player. But I am
collecting "rare" videos not found anywhere else online, so my standards are
rare kinda.
http://tinyurl.com/s3b3r
>>> Asking/Advertising how to download videos from YouTube still isn't
>>> relavent in these groups, IMHO. There's probably a
>>> alt.comp.internet.culture or something like that, there it would be more
>>> appropriate...
>>>
>>
>> Can you give an example of something that is close to being appropriate
>> and
>> another that is definately appropriate and then type out the standard we
>> shall use to determine this, while showing where my actions are in
>> relation
>> to the criteria? This standard cannot contradict itself in order for me
>> to
>> agree to what your saying.
>
> Well, it /is/ kind of fuzzy, but IMHO your original message doesn't
> fit... Maybe it's just me, but in my eyes, say, a review of a concert
> would be more appropriate in the respectiv group...
> And as I see it, crossposting in so many groups is a big "no no", per
> se...
>
THats an urban myth and those who support it could actually make
crossposting impossible if they could get certain people to vote for
protocals and change the way all usenet works.
>>> [...] you can get music videos
>>> far more easier and with higher quality from nearly everywhere (from one
>>> of the thousands of P2P-networks, for example).
>>>
>>
>> I have more than a thousand videos from those P2P networks but have found
>> videos in one search on YouTube that I haven't been able to find search
>> since the original Napster and all her bastard children. P2P is still
>> great
>> but YouTube is more diverse and has more.
>
> YMMV, but I made the experience that on P2P-networks, the quality
> of the available videos are really higher, something quite important to
> me...
>
True true true and truer! But I can't find alot of these on XXXXXX p2p
especially in 15 little minutes
Formal Beatles Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf-Q2rDd6Tw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSaZJItCMnA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYPKJs_QgSQ&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Qq5dr8JLk&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYe3JSYdrro&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex5BW8abTdw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPsRA6H0wZM&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6G7MkBMVxE&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd5mcXWrNf4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGfLVNrESo&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f93ppICxTTU&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ32e5vuWCc&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kah7yzRsb7M&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWjVffR5EdM&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIzlO4H00k&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAkbobSaulc&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QShSmpI0r9k&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLPBxrhUb4A&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBe85UKa1GQ&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBRcKaXDL7Q&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydOauEQBz8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKTVej-bVA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twu_h7qkepA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnvSJ9UEJCs&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxjlZYoWgJo&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbLsbqvl58Q&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8fNDfdjXd8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lIRIKn6DTw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZD4U4Se0Y8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwbOp8mqD7g&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWZEoVT9-mE&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB9T2PckpAk&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To6ErQHxgOk&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNXc6A_20c&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpxUKjzLfPo&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTSz3_n5EYs&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LoYM5OWIqI&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvq_-8ZdoK4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwCcfLye_x8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OZPjRWo1NI&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrH3kHUEDTw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQbiynRY2k4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9SfZvm7Jc&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRv34Cat3Vw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3W2Oa_Dqwc&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh5YwjfaCXk&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhk-8OavEY&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzgR8hUlDk&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0PzBE76Gj0&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gAGZ630vts&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htaeTW1i_hg&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKZHKjPyfbw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqfe3lYdFw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgEoBlNuqM&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUEDfPtnf8I&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgzcXhc9Ek&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZt1c_GpRd4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTkD5WFanc4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TpVA8P_RyY&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgG9Wj-3wbM&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLjIyaOZgQA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nriWnq9OHYI&search=beatles
misc stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4h2pU9EApQ&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuNV5O1qEPI&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDjAWfpbINU&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7qlj6wl1rw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RuZqZIkkhQ&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EkD0dt3G-4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNYzAhXBar0&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2yq2BbzTXg&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_VIDVmDAwQ&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfc5z6Xi7Yk&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhPDM6PwGmI&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psATF1mUpUU&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvqG7yuDX_o&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXJqt1YPBbw&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRVLOUPXaHc&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyF31uw2Ey4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulb7wNPCL_Q&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkN01O-6hqM&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2puW0vi6vA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4QPTDfX5K8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dIehDdzpkU&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e62VjDCnT4&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ERED-9C0o8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPI5B54wFkU&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsoWGtsOJzA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeJL0MzBU_Q&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ3fwG2KOd0&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpEZM6OEvI&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4kRFc9MLI8&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAiTl56uep0&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru4Cdpjlbic&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tetfbVx0itA&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzmupeBdovg&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQuIqLRrqnU&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ2sFk_LKHQ&search=beatles
possible duplicates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx2yLABIvsE&search=beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdopMqrftXs&search=beatles
??????????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6paD9SuOUVc&search=beatles
>>> It's just that a real name gives you more credibility, since you're less
>>> likely to flame or troll away when you're not called "L33THAXORZ" or
>>> something...
>>
>> I believe that the most important thing is the worth of the argument and
>> how
>> well it is argued.
>
> It of is, but imagine you see someone posting for the first time,
> writing a lengthy text. Would you rather read it if it where
> a) written by someone named "L33THAXORZ" with lots of "u" instead of
> "you" and the like
> or
> b) written by someone named "Daniel Smith", written in clean English
> ?
> Also, your real name bears some responsibility to post clear, troll-free
> messages, while you can always change a pseudonym without much strain...
From my training in philosophy I would choose A and slaughter a sucka on his
text with no swearing and with a nice treatment calmly pick him apart.
Besides we go back and forth and it will become clear whats going on over
time.
"b)" = Fallacy: Appeal to Authority
Also Known as: Fallacious Appeal to Authority, Misuse of Authority,
Irrelevant Authority, Questionable Authority, Inappropriate Authority, Ad
Verecundiam
Description of Appeal to Authority
An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:
Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
Person A makes claim C about subject S.
Therefore, C is true.
This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate
authority on the subject. More formally, if person A is not qualified to
make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.
This sort of reasoning is fallacious when the person in question is not an
expert. In such cases the reasoning is flawed because the fact that an
unqualified person makes a claim does not provide any justification for the
claim. The claim could be true, but the fact that an unqualified person made
the claim does not provide any rational reason to accept the claim as true.
When a person falls prey to this fallacy, they are accepting a claim as true
without there being adequate evidence to do so. More specifically, the
person is accepting the claim because they erroneously believe that the
person making the claim is a legitimate expert and hence that the claim is
reasonable to accept. Since people have a tendency to believe authorities
(and there are, in fact, good reasons to accept some claims made by
authorities) this fallacy is a fairly common one.
Since this sort of reasoning is fallacious only when the person is not a
legitimate authority in a particular context, it is necessary to provide
some acceptable standards of assessment. The following standards are widely
accepted:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-authority.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
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