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Posted by Zombie Wolf on 03/29/06 20:18
and when you see some 56k guy listed as having "10 slots available", and
some dsl guy advertising 40 slots, you will have finally un-stiffened and
your brain will be semi- functional !
"Zombie Wolf" <zmbwf@gwi.net> wrote in message
news:BKqdnUKEdKlyd7fZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@giganews.com...
> get thier list. the red files are files they are CURRENTLY DOWNLOADING.
> Now, when you get some 56 k user's list (providing you CAN get it) and see
> 10, 15, or 20 red files, you will finally know what is going on. when you
> get some dsl guys list, and get 50 red files listed, you will know all
> over again... try it.... I get this all the time. what do you think ? that
> i "invented" this goddamn problem, or what ???? I have seen this every
> friggin DAY for a COUPLE OF YEARS. wake up - smell the coffee....
>
> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:1143663054.406472.60440@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Zombie Wolf wrote:
>>> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1143658502.230572.120150@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>> > Zombie Wolf wrote:
>>> >> But some of you still dont really get a handle on what's going on.
>>> >> the
>>> >> people on dsl have bought into the "hype" about dsl and how "high
>>> >> speed"
>>> >> it
>>> >> is, and think they can run 40 or 50 slots for uploads and downloads,
>>> >> when
>>> >> all they can really support is about 2 each way.
>>> >
>>> > That's strange - I have DSL and I'm sure I'd remember if I'd bought
>>> > some hype of late. Ofcourse, if I'd actually purchased the hype, it
>>> > wouldn't take long before I realized that even half as many slots may
>>> > be about 20 slots too many.
>>> >
>>> >> So there they are, churning along slower than a 56k , and you can't
>>> >> educate them.
>>> >> They simply wont listen.
>>> >
>>> > Most of them don't listen because they've leaving WinMX for Limewire.
>>> > Not even DC++, which at least looks decent - but Limewire. Strangely,
>>> > since Limewire's stock rose with the NG's Noobs, my UL/DL speeds have
>>> > skyrocked, and I'm seriously considering adding another dozen slots.
>>> >
>>> >> And a lot of isp's will quote their speeds in kiloBITS, to inflate
>>> >> their
>>> >> numbers and make you think they are fast, when the fact is, you have
>>> >> to
>>> >> divide that by 10 to get the actual speed. People also buy into this
>>> >> schtick, and run 40 or 50 slots.
>>> >
>>> > If that were so, I'd never be able to DL anything in a reasonable
>>> > amount of time - yet I've actually gotten about 3 DVD-R's worth of
>>> > stuff in the past 2 weeks.
>>> >
>>> >> Even the 56k guys, who ought to know better, will routinely try to
>>> >> run as
>>> >> much as 10 or 15 slots, when they are lucky if they can do a good job
>>> >> of
>>> >> supporting 1 each way.
>>> >
>>> > Having been a 56k guy in the past, I can't recall trying to support
>>> > anybody - dial-up inspires a sort of selfishness in that respect; get
>>> > that one DL now because you can always be cut-off.
>>> >
>>> >> Like I said, you cannot educate them, I have tried for years on irc
>>> >> to
>>> >> tell
>>> >> them, and they just dont listen.....
>>> >
>>> > It's hard to educate others with uneducated hype.
>>> >
>>> uneducated hype ? maybe you better look up what i just got done telling
>>> you.
>>> most dsl connections wont churn much beyond 40 k a second. now, if you
>>> run
>>> 40 slots up and 40 slots down, that leaves 1/2 k per second per slot.
>>> its
>>> simple math, my friend.
>>
>> Maybe you need to re-read the above, my friend - you did more than
>> crunched numbers, instead claiming that DSL and dial-up users are
>> ignorant. That's the uneducated hype - in simple english.
>>>
>>> KILOBITS is a figure commonly used to state upload and download speeds.
>>> this
>>> is how many BITS per second the connection supports. 8 data bits and one
>>> start bit, and one stop bit, adds up to 10 bits for each BYTE (8 bits)
>>> of
>>> data. So you have to divide by 10 to get the ACTUAL speed in BYTES of
>>> the
>>> connection. 56 KILOBITS equals about 5.6 KILOBYTES per second. I know
>>> wherefore i am speaking here.... its your problem if you never learned
>>> anything about the subject.
>>
>> It's your problem if you can't get your facts straight - if the problem
>> of ignorant users was as widespread as you suggest, nobody would be
>> able to move any amount of media in a reasonably short period.
>>
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