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Posted by un fake di Alberto on 04/10/06 11:09
The Man With No Name <none@none.com> wrote:
> <honuscc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:20060407133027.075$dS@newsreader.com...
> >I saw a listing for this on eBay which indicates 'unedited' version. I
> > didn't know there was more than one. There was a U.S. release running at
> > about 150 minutes. Is there a different one that is longer? This film
> > has
> > a little bit of everything. I hate to think I was still missing
> > something?
> > Someone clarify this?
>
> Basically, it's probably the same 150 minute version released in the US
> (and Australia) on DVD.
> The 'unedited' part being the scene of incest which was originally cut to
> avoid an 'X' rating (with today's more lenient ratings, it could easily get
> an 'R' and in Australia the DVD is even M15+ (marginally harder than an
> American PG13)
>
> There are various reports of quite a bit having been cut for time and
> pacing reasons (with rumors of versions as long as 3+ hours,) but none of
> these versions have ever been released on video or DVD (and it's uncertain
> wether or not the footage even exists anymore.)
Has anything been cut besides what was cut in the original Italian
version? I have an old interview to Visconti claiming he actually only
was asked to cut a very little bit in the incestuous scene between
Martin (Helmut Berger) and his mother Sofia (Ingrid Thulin). Visconti
said (translation mine): <<If it is as they said, then there's incest
between Hamlet and his mother, but between them there's lots of things
but the incest; Hamlet never actually has intercourse with his mother
and even in my film I was able to convince [the censors] that the scene
was very elliptic. However, when I showed them the film with the tiny
cut, they asked for a much longer cut, one which would have eliminated
the whole scene, so I refused and stuck to it (...) I sais I could have
cut more of that scene, but that I would have been forced to insert a
counter-camp, and I said it would have made everything more graphic,
because you would actually see a naked man and a naked woman on a bed.
So I cut this counter-camp in and I showed them the film again, and we
went back to that only one tiny cut>>.
Which is to say, unless more cuts were made for foreign markets, cuts
were far from being "quite a bit". I'd be glad to double check on my
Italian DVD for any details you'd like to check.
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