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Posted by William A. T. Clark on 04/17/06 14:03
In article <Xns97A6D5814182Athanexit@216.196.97.135>,
thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote:
> "Deke" <no spam@today.com> wrote in
> news:1f3fe$43e833cb$943f8239$27144@STARBAND.NET:
>
> > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in
> > message
> > news:clark.31-C47994.14313906022006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-st
> > ate.edu...
> >> I happened to be unlucky enough to be given a JVC DR-MV1S
> >> DVD/VCR recorder as a Christmas present a little over a
> >> year ago.
>
> Well put.
>
> > So give JVC some slack. Go look at one of the JVC D-ILA
> > HD televisions, compare it with anything else on the
> > market, and you'll see that JVC still makes some incredible
> > products. Just my two cents.
> >
> > Peace
> > Deke
>
> Sorry to join in so late, but this is my first time here. (I am
> posting a tiny yet very annoying problem ASAIGATI. I thought I'd
> read a few posts first. While I'm at it, I apologize if I am
> about to mention things everyone already knows. See first
> sentence.)
>
> Here goes...
>
> I hate to oversimplify things, but does anyone know what JVC
> stands for?
>
> Japanese Victor Company (as in RCA Victor).
>
> The last time RCA made anything decent was when they were making
> 300 lb. television cameras in the 50's. (I don't know WHERE
> these new Chinese portable CD players etc. etc. with the RCA
> logo on them come from.)
>
> If you ever used older (80's and 90's) VCR's, camcorders, or
> semi-pro monitors, you would know they were often identical from
> both brands. They may still be, I don't know.
>
> JVC has a tradition of being the first with some very feature-
> rich product, which is given rave reviews UNTIL someone actually
> uses it. I remember...
>
> (this was in the 70's when 20-minute " mini "U-Matic" video
> cassettes appeared, a Sony invention, I believe - just like VHS,
> BTW. VHS was invented by Sony and discarded as >>>not good
> enough<<<. Then they developed Betamax, SO MUCH BETTER - but
> more expensive - so it died, of course - well, it came back to
> life in possibly the last great Sony invention - the Betacam pro
> video recorder - even Sony is no longer what it used to be, by
> far. Anyway, JVC *bought* the VHS technology from Sony, and
> admittedly, improved it very considerably (it DID take them like
> a decade, though), but it's still crap. Of course, almost dead
> now, but still crap.)
>
> ...when JVC came out with the first portable " "U-Matic" video
> cassette recorder ("portapak") that offered what Sonys (yet) did
> not, an almost glitch-free "pause-then resume recording" feature
> (and some other impressive *specs*). I think this was in 1976 or
> so.
>
> After using it for a few months and having it in the repair shop
> of the time, as well as after comparing the image and sound
> quality, we all decided never to touch the thing again.
>
> Since then, I have always been suspicious of JVC, although
> almost anyone will make a great product once in a while. Ages
> ago I had a little >>LLOYD'S<< stereo clock radio which worked
> like a charm. And some repair technicians I know are fond of
> saying "Nakamichi (and B&O, etc. etc.) products are fantastic.
> As long as you don't try to actually USE them."
>
> I have been pretty lucky with most of my purchases, but I never
> buy anything when it first comes out. (WHY do they pick "car of
> the year" before anyone actually drives one for more than 3
> blocks?)
>
> I had a Sony Walkman WM-F10 (the FM radio version of the "Super
> Walkman") from 1982, I think, and I used it EVERY DAY for
> several hours (almost never the radio, even though it was VERY
> good). It ran like a dream for over EIGHT years!!! It was the
> first with the in-ear bud phones!!! I have copied music *from
> it* onto a component cassette deck and they sounded pretty
> great, considering the size of the thing (for the young'uns, it
> was a inch taller than a cassette box, other dimensions being
> virtually identical)!!! It had an (undocumented) head azimuth
> adjustment screw so EVERY cassette sounded fantastic!!! (I
> always had a tiny screwdriver with me along with some spare
> NiCad AA's...)
>
> Those were the days... Sigh...
>
> Anyway... anytime I ever had anything "repaired", it ended up in
> the trash sooner or later. "Service" is a myth. And "extended
> service" is a total ripoff. A salesman once told me he ONLY made
> commissions from the "extended warranty" sales he made. I wonder
> why???
>
> If you're lucky, it will work almost forever. If it has to be
> repaired, you might as well save yourself the hassle, bite the
> bullet, and buy another one.
>
> Just my experience.
>
> (BTW, VERY interesting "surge-protector" change in the thread.
> Informative, and the giraffe comment was hilarious.)
Well, the latest is that, after over three weeks, JVC sent me a
refurbished DR-MV1S to replace mine. So far I have hooked it up, and so
far it all works fine. Keeping my fingers crossed though . . .
William Clark
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