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Posted by Bob Ford on 10/26/72 11:54
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:28:36 GMT, Bill Fright
<billfright@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>> Bob Ford wrote:
>>
>>>On 21 Jul 2006 22:36:12 -0700, riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>William Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <1153493202.410834.326570@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ty Ford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:31:52 -0400, riclanders@gmail.com wrote
>>>>>>>(in article <1153485112.655687.178680@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>riclanders@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm hearing the Senneiser 300 is a great mike except for its delicate
>>>>>>>>>cable which is prone to go bad if stretched.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there a similar quality mike with a more durable cable for under
>>>>>>>>>$200?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>ric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>May be able to answer my own question here. The Rode video mic at $149.
>>>>>>>>seems to be a much better deal and the RODE NT3-HYPER CARDIOID at $199.
>>>>>>>>seems to be better yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you do a lot of run and gun shooting, the VideoMic will wiggle audibly.
>>>>>>>If
>>>>>>>shooting on a tripod or slow handheld, it's very nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ty Ford
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What about the RODE NT3-HYPER CARDIOID?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
>>>>>>>stuff are at www.tyford.com
>>>>>
>>>>>ric
>>>>>
>>>>>We're all trying to be gentle and kind here, but it's difficult because
>>>>>you keep trying to get us to validate something we're just not
>>>>>comfortable validating.
>>>>>
>>>>>In my seminars, one typical audience ³light bulb moment is when I do the
>>>>>following exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd get the audience to close their eyes - then I'd announce ³Hi, my
>>>>>name is Bill Davis and I've been making video professionally for more
>>>>>than 15 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then I'd ask them to open their eyes and I'd silently mouth the words ³I
>>>>>live in Scottsdale, Arizona on an old horse property the barn of which
>>>>>I've converted into a purpose-built video production studio
>>>>>
>>>>>Then I'd ask them to tell me which ³presentation mode they got the most
>>>>>information out of. AUDIO without VIDEO or VIDEO without AUDIO.
>>>>>
>>>>>The point is that in most typical videos the AUDIO track actually does
>>>>>more of the communications ³heavy lifting than does the VIDEO.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you want to rest that component of your work on an inexpensive mic
>>>>>with a suspect cable, hey man, you go right ahead.
>>>>>
>>>>>Its simply that most of us would NEVER consider any mic that didn't have
>>>>>a long, solid, verifiable track record of performance in actual field
>>>>>conditions in these circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe the RODE gizmo is the next great field production mic and we just
>>>>>don't know about it. Or maybe it's a fragile gizmo with a 100% margin,
>>>>>lots of marketing bucks, and no place in any videographers bag. We don't
>>>>>know, because we haven't used it and likely NEVER WILL use it. Because
>>>>>our time and work is too important for trial and error and there are
>>>>>already time tested products that we KNOW work correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>>You want to try it out. Go right ahead. If you and a couple of dozen
>>>>>other guys start raving about it, it MIGHT earn a place in our bags -
>>>>>provided one of our EV-635s or Beyer M-58s or Sony 672s or one of the
>>>>>other couple of dozen mics that we've all had knocking around in our
>>>>>bags and that are still working flawlessly after 15 or 20 years without
>>>>>a failure gets run over by a road grader or something.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nothing wrong with asking these kind of questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nothing wrong with not taking the answers and doing it your own way,
>>>>>either.
>>>>>
>>>>>You want to learn though your own trial and error - have at it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Most of us had to at some point.
>>>>>
>>>>>Welcome to the club.
>>>>
>>>>Not to put too fine a point on on it, but the people at Dvcreators.net
>>>>have now think the
>>>>RODE Videomic at $149 offers more value than the Senneiser 300 at
>>>>$199. They, in fact, no longer recommend the Senneiser 300.
>>>>
>>>>Is your point I should ignore this and select the Senneiser 300 over
>>>>the Rode anyway?
>>>>
>>>>ric
>>>
>>>My Gawd man, how many different people and how many different ways
>>>does someone have to say it to you.
>>>If you have your heart set on it, buy it.....
>>>
>>>Bob Ford
>>>Images In Motion
>>>www.imagesinmotion.com
>>
>>
>>
>> When question, Bob: Are you off your medication again or is it just
>> that time of the month?
>>
>> ric
>>
>
>well it looks like the amature just burned his trial membership with the
>experienced players. Actually I thought you guys treated ric pretty well
>considering he didn't appear to actually understand anything you guys wrote.
>
>bill
You got that right Bill!
At my age I got over having my time of the month long ago.
I also don't use med's, drugs, alcohol or any other mind altering
substances, nor do I have any tats or body piercings.
I've just been quite content running my little video production biz
for over 22 years now so I'm afraid Riccy is on his own.
A respected pro on this group sent me a private e-mail comparing him
to old Conduit;"-)
Bob Ford
Images In Motion
www.imagesinmotion.com
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