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Posted by Mr. Tapeguy on 10/06/06 15:13
timepixdc wrote:
> In article <1160141184.360869.71510@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mr. Tapeguy" <mr.tapeguy@pro-tape.com> wrote:
>
> > I love it when I see this kind of post. It reminds me of how much I
> > appreciate Apple's exclusion of resellers from education sales.
>
> Obvious self interest on your part.
Yes, that's true. It's hard to maintain a level of business when such
a substantial percentage of people are made unprofitable for you by
design. I mean who doesn't know someone whose kid isn't in school or
his wife is a teacher...it goes on and on.
But I do believe that buying from knowledgeable professionals is
mutually beneficial. Apple doesn't offer a whole lot of free support
for pro video users or peripherals. When we put together a system we
support it. Apple doesn't care about your Seagate drive or anything
else and their standard non-fee based support for FCS is limited.
> > Pro Video Resellers offer an added measure of service and support
>
> They charge more money and offer little that an informed consumer can't
> do for himself.
They sometimes charge more money but an "informed consumer" is not a
term that generally applies to this industry. If you're going to be
editing video on a serious or professional level you need to be a lot
more than an informed consumer. If you're a computer/video guru and
you have no need of such support, knock yourself out. Still, if the
pricing is in the ballpark, why not consolidate your purchase, support
small business and take whatever added value you can?
> > We specialize in building systems such as this
>
> Can you offer this guy the same Apple/FCP system for under $5000?
I haven't priced it out but I would say yes.
>
> > As a pro video reseller, we can offer your computer at a comparable
> > cost delivered and you won't have to take the time to register or pay
> > to become a "student."
>
> Registering takes all of 15 minutes at your local community college.
> Besides, there might be a course he actually wants to take.
I've never registered for any college course that took 15 minutes but I
suppose if you register online or something it's possible. There is
also a fee.
> > While student software is cheaper, it is not upgradeable.
>
> 1) Buy the full version of FCP for $1300, then pay another $600 for the
> next upgrade
>
> or
>
> 2) Buy the full student version of FCP for $500-700, then pay another
> $500-700 for the full student version of FCP.
>
> Which saves you more money?
I am not familiar with the last upgrade that was $600; in fact it's
usually much less. The crossgrade is a fraction of that. Upgrades
are usually $200-300 less than full student versions.
> > So when the
> > next big revision comes out you get to register for a class again and
> > buy your software anew instead of just upgrading. The bargain then
> > magically vanishes and in the long run, you end up paying much more.
>
> No you don't. See above.
> Can you offer this guy the same Apple/FCP system for under $5000?
Again, yes. And a lot more for his money. There is no need to argue.
The student endaround is an obvious attraction due to the way Apple has
structured education sales. I'm simply saying there is a viable
alternative that doesn't have to cost more or at the very least, not
much more.
Craig
http://www.pro-tape.com
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