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Re: subtitles vs closed captioning

Posted by Bill's News on 10/19/06 17:36

Jukka Aho wrote:
> Bill's News wrote:
>
>> Linea Recta wrote:
>>
>>> It seems there is a confusing difference between the so called DVD
>>> options: 'subtitles' and 'closed captioning'.
>>> I now have a DVD with no subtitles, but playing it on the PC I
>>> discovered it HAS a closed caption. I can make it visible too on
>>> PC
>>> using PowerDVD. However, playng the DVD in the stand alone player,
>>> I
>>> cannot display the closed captions, although I have the option for
>>> closed caption activated in the players setup menu. What a
>>> shambles
>>> of standards eh...?
>
>> Since CC is an analog standard, I've no idea how it could be
>> present
>> on a digital DVD without the DVD player's knowledge - how would the
>> info get to the blanking interval without the DVD player doing so?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.

I may not know what I mean either;-0)

I no longer use a TV, I use a HD monitor. I have a couple of cable
company HDVRs and they each have the option to display
subtitles/closed-captions, which usually appear with descriptive and
dialogue texts. The display, a Westinghouse 42" monitor, has no CC
option which I can find. I also have an OPPO DVD player, and find no
CC option but there is an option to default subtitles on in a language
of my choice.

Most DVDs which I have are English spoken language. Among those most
have an English subtitle track, which appears similar to CC in that
descriptive data accompanies dialogue. But, when I play one which
does not have an English subtitle track, I'd love to be able to play a
CC track. I sampled only a few of the collection since this thread
began and find none for which the player, the monitor, or the software
players on the PC will offer a CC on/off option.

So, I was curious of the title of the DVD (or any title of an English
DVD so CC encoded) so that I can either check my shelf or the well
supplied library near by, to tinker with how I might display these
titles.

Does that help clarify my confusion?

> The OP, who lives in the Netherlands, says
> he has a DVD - presumably an imported NTSC format movie - with line
> 21
> CC data on it. (It's not actually stored in "line 21" on the DVD,
> but
> as a separate data stream that is interspersed with the MPEG video.
> The DVD player is supposed to handle the VBI insertion during
> playback.) His software-based DVD player application recognizes the
> captions and can display them on a PC screen, but the problem is
> that
> his stand-alone DVD player doesn't seem able to do the same.
>
> Since he is using a European tv set, one plausible explanation is
> that
> his DVD player _will_ insert the CC data on line 21, as it should,
> but
> his tv set simply doesn't have a CC decoder that would enable
> viewing
> it.

 

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