|  | Posted by Citizen Bob on 11/06/06 17:45 
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:14:10 GMT, "PTravel"<ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
 
 >I'll post the actual jury instruction.
 
 Be sure to post the exclusions regarding jurors rights to vote the way
 they want.
 
 If I have time I will post it, because it's certain you don't even
 know about it. Those instructions explicitly state that the court
 cannot influence the jury into voting its way. It's based on a famous
 ruling and bears the name of the case.
 
 >That's right -- they're not legal experts, which is why the judge gives them
 >extensive instruction as to what is the applicable law, and why they are
 >required to follow the judge's instructions.
 
 As  juror I can have reasonable doubt and still comply with the courts
 instructions.
 
 Or do you not understand the doctrine of reasonable doubt.
 
 >> Yes they do - that's the whole point of having juries in the first place!
 
 >Sorry, but that's incorrect.
 
 That's correct in common law systems, but not commie systems like you
 operate in. Where are you from - China?
 
 >> If I didn't know better, I could easily believe you have no legal
 >> knowledge whatsoever, given your lack of understanding of the jury's role.
 
 >Yes, that's right.  I have no legal knowledge whatsoever.  That's how I was
 >able to conduct all those jury trials all these years.
 
 So you are a judge. Now we understand.
 
 You sound just like the judge in the Laura Kriho trial.
 
 Thank God you are not in the majority or America would be as fucked up
 as Britain and all the other totalitarian dictatorships.
 
 Just stay out of Texas, or you could end up chained to the back of a
 pickup.
 
 
 --
 
 "First and last, it's a question of money. Those men who own the earth
 make the laws to protect what they have. They fix up a sort of fence or
 pen around what they have, and they fix the law so the fellow on the
 outside cannot get in. The laws are really organized for the protection of
 the men who rule the world. They were never organized or enforced to do
 justice. We have no system for doing justice, not the slightest in the world."
 --Clarence Darrow
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