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Posted by Colin B on 12/13/06 22:59
"Bill" <trash@christian-horizons.org> wrote in message
news:JOydnQ4ccprUqR3YnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@golden.net...
>I didn't say that either.
>
> But I will say this: if you believe in stringent copyright enforcement,
> you can't have it both ways. You can't-- morally, if not legally-- let
> your video be played 100,000 times because you benefit from the exposure
> and then cry, copyright theft and sue the uploader.
>
> You tell me: is that logical? And -- with all due respect again-- can you
> answer that question and not some other question that provides a straw-man
> argument? Is it logical or moral for copyright owners to allow their
> rights to be conspicuously violated and then turn around and sue the
> uploader?
>
> Could you at least admit that copyright holders that allow their material
> to continue to be played without making any effort to have it stopped
> undermine the general idea copyright as it applies to videos and music?
> And before anyone tells me that the law doesn't change no matter how many
> people disobey it-- fine, I know that. That's not what I said. I said
> "undermine the general idea". I think most of us know what is meant by
> "general idea".
>
> I anticipate Paul responding that it doesn't matter if Enya benefits from
> the endless viewing of her video-- she still has absolute copyright and
> property rights and all that. Fine. I grant you that. The question is,
> in the minds of the uploading public, does her claim have that abstract
> general thing that most people understand as credibility"?
You mention the endless viewing of Enya videos. But her audience pails into
insignificance compared, for example, with that of Sacha Baron Cohen. See
here for some details about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_G
Cohen, plays the characters of Ali G, Borat, and Bruno the fashion reporter.
His videos have been massively popular on Youtube. At least sixteen of his
Borat videos have received more than 800,000 views, giving a total of about
22 million views. His top video seems to be "Borat's Dating Service"
receiving about 2.8 million views:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-qsnMPC0g (1,968,000 views)
AND AGAIN here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65d6_NQaOHo (826,000 views)
One of Borat's videos has received 1,893,480 views, and has been on Youtube
for 10 months. It runs for more than 24 minutes.
Now I assume that such a massive presence on Youtube, where possibly 30
million viewings have taken place, must have been approved by the copyright
owners? Perhaps Cohen has a license agreement? But in any event, Cohen must
be aware of his massive following on Youtube so it looks like he has no
problem with this situation? And I guess that Youtube wouldn't like these
videos to be deleted either because they are so popular. Certainly, all
Cohen's fans wouldn't like his videos to be deleted, so it seems everyone is
happy, or are they?
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