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Posted by Theophilus on 12/16/06 12:30
"~yobbo~" <misfit61nz@yahookers.com.au> wrote in message
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> Theophilus wrote:
>> "~yobbo~" <misfit61nz@yahookers.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:45834a64_3@x-privat.org...
>> > Theophilus wrote:
>> > > > It is impossible to "convert" to atheism since atheism is not
>> > > > only not a religion, it is a rejection of religion. That's
>> > > > like saying you joined nothing.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Atheism IS a religion, the most hypocritical known.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Religion is the wilful self-delusion about higher power(s) being
>> > > the actual arbiters of mankind and the universe.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > This self-delusion is necessary to prevent oneself from realizing
>> > > one's true position in the universe, namely that a conscious mind
>> > > is no more valuable or meaningful that any other bit of matter in
>> > > the universe, be it cow dung, helium or coal.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Atheists wilfully remove that self-delusion (usually with great
>> > > pride), even claiming that the universe is a meaningless place,
>> > > but never once realizing where that leaves them.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It's really about who the arbiter, the assigner of meaning, is: for a
>> > > religious person it is God, even though there is no
>> > > empirical evidence to back it up; hence the wilful delusion.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > For the atheist it is his himself, he is his own arbiter, master
>> > > of all morality and value. That flies in the face of evidence;
>> > > he says that he knows that he is no more valuable than any other
>> > > piece of matter in the materialistic universe, and yet continues
>> > > to assign value to himself and his actions anyways.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Which of these has the most reasonable position? (As if reason
>> > > itself has any value in a materialistic, godless universe.) Who
>> > > is the greater hypocrite?
>> >
>> > You.
>>
>> Good answer. Demonstrate.
>
> Thanks but... Philoshophy and theology aren't my strongest suits. Now, if
> we were discussing psychology....
Disappointing. I thought maybe you had grasped an essential truth, when in
fact you were just being a smartass. Oh well, to each his own.
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