|  | Posted by PTravel on 02/14/07 17:34 
"Gene" <genes@wildblue.net> wrote in message news:4FGAh.10$jP3.76876@news.sisna.com...
 > If anyone has something similar to this:
 > Sanyo VPC-HD1A
 > http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/hd1a.html
 > are you happy with it?
 >
 > ~85 minutes on a 4GB card does not sound
 > that bad. 16GB should be out there eventually.
 >
 > Wonder if the A/V quality of the 720p is comparable
 > to my current MiniDV, when both are burned to a DVD-R
 > at max quality?  That is, if you make a 85 minute DVD-R
 > of each at its best possible recording mode, which
 > DVD-R of 85 minutes would be the better quality when
 > played back on a 1080i TV?
 >
 > If I could get comparable DVD-Rs from this camcorder,
 > the conversion from flash to DVD-R should be really
 > easy on a PC with a flash reader. Kind of like the
 > set-top conversions should be, but are not, at least
 > for me. (Too many freezes with my Sony camcorders
 > and firewire.)
 >
 > The lens on these little camcorders look a little iffy to me,
 > just not sure how they could give the same quality
 > as my old Sony PC100 with wide angle lens, etc?
 
 Standard definition DV-25 (what you get from your miniDV camcorder) has a
 data rate of 25 mbps, using non-temporal compression at a rate of 5 to 1.
 DVD-compliant mpeg (what is used on your DVRs) has a maximum data rate of
 around 10 mbps, and uses temporal compression at a rate of 10 to 1 or more.
 High definition HDV (what you get from the prosumer high def camcorders)
 uses mpeg2 compression and also has a data rate of 25 mbps.  These cameras
 have minor, but ocassionaly noticeable, motion artifact issues. AVCHD (what
 consumer HD camcorders use) uses mpeg4 and can, in theory, have a data rate
 of 25 mbps, but as implemented is limited to between 12 and 17 mbps. These
 cameras exhibit major motion artifact issues.
 
 Thes Sanyo has a data rate of 9 mbps, roughly 2/3s to 1/2 of the consumer HD
 data rate, and roughly 30% of the data rate of a prosumer HDV camcorder.
 
 YMMV but, to me, it's a toy for people who don't know better.  It certainly
 isn't going to produce video comparable to an AVCHD machine (and, to me,
 AVCHD quality is unacceptable), and won't approach a HDV machine (which, to
 me, is acceptable, but just).
 
 
 >
 >
 > *********** cut-n-paste************
 > The HD1a can record over 21 minutes of 720p
 > HD video on a 1GB SD card or over 42 minutes
 > on a 2GB card and is compatible with the newer
 > 4GB size cards for even longer recording.
 > You can record in Standard Definition mode
 > (640 x 480 pixels at 30fps progressive) for up
 > to two hours on a 2GB SD card. It's easy to
 > switch between high-definition and standard-
 > definition recording modes by simply pressing
 > the "HD/Norm" button on the side of the camera.
 > *************************************
 >
 > Gene
 >
 >
 >
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