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Posted by Spex on 07/31/07 09:38
Frank wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:06:52 -0400, in 'rec.video.production',
> in article <Re: Opinions on new TV purchase>,
> Mike Kujbida <kXuXjXfXaXm@xplornet.com> wrote:
>
>> Jack P wrote:
>>> Bob Ford wrote:
>>>> I am thinking of buying a new HD TV for our family room.
>>>> Maximum size I can use is about 42" and I am looking at flat panel,
>>>> both LCD and Plasma.
>>>>
>>>> Costco seems to have good pricing on Vizio LCD or Panasonic Viera
>>>> Plasma.
>>>> I've read a lot of the pros and cons for both LCD and Plasma.
>>>> From what I concur it should be 1080 but from there it appears that it
>>>> is largely a matter of personal choice.
>>>>
>>>> Just curious what the consensus of opinion on this group is re: Plasma
>>>> vs LCD or brands for that matter?
>>>> Bob Ford
>>>> Images In Motion
>>>> www.imagesinmotion.com
>>>
>>> Personally I'd go Sony or Panasonic and or at least go with Name Brands
>>> and not no name brands...
>>>
>>>
>>> What I have told people is to bring along a portable SD non HD dvd
>>> player and cable it to the input of any TV you buy ----
>>>
>>> All the Tv stores have gorgeous HD pumped into their TVs on the floor
>>> and that's great, but you'll still be watching regular tv for a while
>>> and if that looks like ass --- then you won't be satisfied.
>>> See how that regular Dvd looks before you buy....
>>
>>
>> LCDs and plasmas each have their pluses and minuses.
>> If you want to make your head spin, check out the various forums at
>> http://www.avsforum.com/
>> My co-worker has been researching this a lot lately and has decided,
>> based mainly on positive feedback on the AVS forums, to go with a Sharp
>> Aquos LCD.
>>
>> Three things to watch out for.
>> #1: Make sure you get a 1080p model, not a 1080i or 720p.
>
> I agree 100 percent.
>
>> #2. Make sure it's 1920 x 1080 resolution.
>
> I agree 100 percent.
>
>> #3. Make sure it has an built-in ATSC tuner.
>
> With all due respect, Mike, some of us live in the city (and will die
> in the city), and have zero use for an RF input. A simple monitor
> (sans tuner) is all that some of us require. We get our television
> from cable, tape, and disc. This is aside from the fact that I watch
> no over-the-air broadcasts anyway, even though they're all available
> on the cable. I do realize that this will vary dependant upon personal
> circumstances, however, so the person planning upon using rabbit ears
> or a roof-mounted antenna would be wise to purchase a set with a
> built-in tuner.
>
>> Here's a good example of "buyer beware".
>> Costco has 2 Sharp 46" LCD sets right now.
>> One is on sale for $1500 ($400 off coupon) and the other one is $2300.
>> You're first thought is "Wow, 2 46" LCD HDTVs and one is %800 cheaper.
>> I'll go for that one."
>> Then you look at the features.
>>
>> The cheap model:
>> Resolution: 1366 x 768
>> Contrast Ratio: 1200:1 (6000:1 dynamic)
>> Brightness: 450 cd/m2
>> Response Time: 6ms
>> Viewing Angles: 176°H x 176°V
>> HDTV Compatibility: 720P
>> Tuner: ATSC / QAM / NTSC
>>
>> The expensive model:
>> Resolution: 1920 x 1080
>> Contrast Ratio: 2000:1
>> Brightness: 450 cd/m2
>> Response Time: 4ms1
>> Viewing Angle: 176º H x 176º V
>> HDTV Compatibility: 1080P
>> Tuner: ATSC / QAM / NTSC
>>
>> Hmmm. The more expensive one is true HD res, has a higher contrast
>> ratio and is 1080p vs. 720 p.
>> Maybe it's a better buy after all.
>
> Better buy is an understatement, IMO. I wouldn't give two cents for
> the first one.
>
>> Mike
>
I'm not so sure you really need to worry about getting a "Full HD" 42"
set unless you use it for you PC as well. You'll not "see" 1920x1080 at
a reasonable viewing distance on a 42". Far more important are the
quality of the de-interlacing system and refresh rate of the set. IMHO.
I've been doing the same homework and been trying to find a good quality
Plasma or LCD TV but have so far failed. There are just so many
inconsistencies at the moment from crazy unreal colours, cloudy blacks
(Sony) super black levels with no detail and horrible 24P (in 25P-land)
playback. There is simply a plethora of crappy TVs out there and it is
not always the cheap ones that are the worst.
Personally I'm now waiting for 100 Hz on the bigger screens, 24P and
more consistent LCD back lighting.
Good luck with your quest and report back here with what you bought please.
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