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Posted by My Name Is Nobody on 11/08/07 22:37
"Martin Heffels" <goofie@flikken.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:19:27 GMT, "My Name Is Nobody" <nobody@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Well Martin, here in this thread, Spex was insulting and condescending,
>>your
>>defense of that inappropriate behavior is insulting
>
> I think it's about time that people who are going to post on the
> discussion-groups, get tested on how thick their nerves are. Your's are
> apparently very thin and you should not be allowed access to the
> discussion-groups yet ;-)
I'm not new to Usenet. My nerves/skins thickness has nothing to do with
this.
> Look mister anonymous, you will meet here all kind of people. The last
It never ceases to amaze me how otherwise fairly reasonable people are
unable to grasp the idea behind anonymous involvement in "cyberspace". Yes,
I am Mister Anonymous, My Name Is Nobody! because there is absolutely no
sane reason for anyone to disperse their personal information to perfect
strangers all over the entire planet. The funny thing is you actually
understand this, otherwise you would have no problems posting your full
name, birthdate, mothers maiden name, complete physical home address and
phone numbers here, yet you do... Ah but you think that is different. It
is the same thing. You believe in maintaining some level of anonymity too,
it is just at which level we disagree.
> thing you should do is get into a fit of a bunch of text aimed at you. If
> you are sensitive to that, being here is not such a good idea. Best is to
> count to 1000, before you post a reply. There are some people who can
> write
> in such a way that it can sound very insulting to the untrained eye, but
An insult, is an insult is an insult, now don't start trying to say it
depends on what your definition for the word is, is...
Besides, when Spex replied to my response to his insults, defending them
with further insults, he eliminated any possibility that his initial insults
weren't actually intended as insults.
> they don't mean anything with that. Sometimes words used in one country,
> can be offensive in another. Tell an Australian he is a "bastard" and he
> will have a good laugh at it. Tell it an American and you get bashed-up.
> See what I mean? Don't take this here too serious. It's not worth the
> heart-attack.
Nice, yet totally irrelevant.
>
> I respect Spex more than I do you. I haven't seen anything useful or
> constructive posted from you here, so for me you are a normal poster, who
> I
"RESPECT"? Wow, so someone your really "respect" (whatever your definition
of respect is) in your mind can behave inappropriately, and that is OK
because you "respect" them, especially if they behave inappropriately to
someone else whom you don't respect? Would that same inappropriate
behavior coming from someone you didn't "respect" still be OK with you?
> do not disrespect, but "let be". ok? If you want my respect, or the
> respect
> of a lot of the other posters, don't get into a fit, have a laugh about
> what Spex calls you, and write something which is useful for all of us.
> You
> will do humanity a much greater favour, than whinging about that someone
> called you an idiot (or whatever).
You would do humanity a big favor if you applied your values and standards
evenly across all of humanity, rather than simply favoring members of your
own clique.
>
>>You are pardoned, Everyone is IGNORANT before they learn.
>
> Very true. Me too. There is many things I know jack about. Don't ask me
> anything about cars. I will give you a dumb, blank stare :-))
>
>> I've done tons
>>(many many hours) of web searching, not having an video specific or
>>technical video experience (Yes there are actually people on this planet
>>who
>>are not video experts)
>
> There are plenty of them here, who ask questions, which all the experts
> are
> happy to answer. All free of will, and without getting paid for it.
Yes I know, I have already been a grateful recipient. Funny for some
strange reason they saw fit to help, without insult. Hum, imagine that.
>
>>you have to actually know specific search terms if
>>you want to learn more. Search terms that I DID NOT KNOW, but have since
>>already learned THANKS TO the other much more helpful and kind
>>contributors
>>to my inquires in this thread). I even placed less than productive
>>technical assistance calls directly to Canon. I did not know the
>>appropriate questions to ask to learn what I wanted to know. Have you
>>ever
>>been in a similar situation?
>
> Of course I have been in such a situation. Who hasn't? But the tone of
> some
> of your posts, wasn't really in your favour. it made you look as if you
Please be specific, which of my posts (prior to my respons to Spex's
insults) carried this tone that you seem to think warranted my being
insulted?
> didn't understand any of the matter at all, and just responded to what was
> written about it, instead of researching what was said, and then ask some
> more questions.
You should have read my replies to the other non insulting helpful posters.
Your summary here is totally inaccurate.
> There is a lot to know about video, and most of us are satisfied to know
> the basics.
>
>>I am sure I am very well versed in any number of topics where you would be
>>totally IGNORANT. If you were trying to learn, and ask questions in these
>>areas you are ignorant in, do you really believe insulting you when you
>>ask
>>is appropriate?
>
> I wouldn't care if someone insults me. It's not worth getting into a fit
> for :-D As I said before, what for one is an insult, is a compliment for
> another.
Yet somehow my defending myself from a pompous insulting prick really seems
to bother you??? Hum...
>
>>Yeah well, Your request would actually seem sincere if you had requested
>>it
>>of Spex.
>>FYI: As distasteful as it may be to you Self Defense is a legal defense
>>for
>>otherwise illegal behavior!!!
>
> You can defend yourself if you get beaten up with fists ;-) Calling around
> here saying "blablabla has insulted me, and now I feel very hurt", won't
> do
> you really much good. Maybe it's off your chest, but that's the only thing
> you gain with it.
You are absolutly wrong, and obviously not familiar with tort law,
defamation of character and slander.
> Really, trust me, I am sure we have been all around this block one time...
> don't ge into a fit what someone says about you. They don't know you, so
> they can't judge you, and it's just fodder then. Just, get it off your
> back. Forget about it, and carry on learing about video, instead of
> getting
> upset every time you see "Spex" appearing on your screen :-))
I'm not upset. Funny thing about this world, you get to live in the world
you create. Unlike you, I do not tolerate inappropriate behavior, in real
life or in "cyberspace", even if it is directed at someone I do not care for
(maybe you prefer the word "respect" here). I have and always will speak
out (or act) against bullies. I know (so do others here) I did nothing
inappropriate to warrant Spex's insults. Your defense of his behavior, and
admonishment of my response to it are inappropriate.
If you are comfortable with your cronies being pompous insulting pricks,
while you stand by and say nothing, why on earth would you be bothered by
one of their victims defending themselves?
>
> cheers
>
> -martin-
> --
> Official website "Jonah's Quid" http://www.jonahsquids.co.uk
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