Posted by Morton Davis on 01/19/39 11:27

"D.E." <ask4myemail> wrote in message
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> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> schreef in bericht
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> >
> > Morton Davis wrote:
> >> "FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1127355874.925156.176270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Hardly a justification. Being the owner of something means you can
not
> >> > only set the price, but also decide whether to sell or not. If I
> >> > decide to steal a car, the fact that the owner hadn't put it on the
> >> > market doesn't change the fact that I've just taken a car that isn't
> >> > mine. There are many compelling arguments for distinguishing file
> >> > sharing from theft, but this is not one of them. Also, simply being
> >> > out of print (thought they had a different term) doens't mean out of
> >> > circulation - old record stores, individual collectors, E*bay offer a
> >> > few of the avenues for obtaining hard-to-find music.
> >> >
> >> However, none of the artists get a red cent from the sale of used music
> >> or
> >> videos. So what's the beef?
> >
> > Every time you sell an old album or tape or whatever, you're basically
> > selling that one album. When you share files, you're keeping the
> > album, and generating copies of it - becoming essentially a new
> > publisher of it, and affecting any plans the rights-owner may have to
> > publish it again, or sell it somewhere down the line.
>
> Actually in my country, the netherlands, I can go to my local library take
> out
> a CD and copy it for my own use, totally legal.I just return the cd to the
> library
> I can even borrow a record from a friend, copy it for my own use and
return
> the original
> and it would be totally legal.As long as I do it myself for myself by
myself
> I life in such a great country did you know that?
> That must really piss you off, hahahhaa, you asshole.
>
> >> Also, with sattelite radio and stations playing CD quality music,
what's
> >> the
> >> diff if you record to a CD off of the radio or DL it?
> >
> > To be honest, this may be the killer part of the argument. I simply
> > don't know because I've never tried satellite radio or even internet
> > radio. If you really can get CD quality sound recorded in its pristine
> > digital state, then much of the rationale used against peer-share just
> > dries up. That said, and with satellite and webcasts becoming more
> > common, why hasn't peer-share declined? I mean, if this is such an
> > effective substitute for peer-share, why hasn't it actually substituted
> > for peer-share?
>
> because you have to wait for the song to come along, but on the internet
you
> don`t.
> You can use programs who search the schedules of that station and sift out
> the song you want
> and you can then download/capture the stream.
>
> >> What does it matter if you record a movie off of HBO or DL it? Same
thing
> >> happens.
> >
> > Not unless your VCR actually starts distributing copies of what you've
> > DL'd. Each videorecording off of HBO produces one copy. Peer-share
> > has the effect of turning your PC into a big multi-tape recorder. Back
> > in the days of WPN (only a few days ago) DL's had the added effect of
> > facilitating additional DL's. Because each person DL'g a file was a
> > potential Uploader, and with WPN's multi-source capability, the more a
> > file was DL'd, every person with that copy of the file became an
> > additional source who'd make it easier for successive Downloaders to
> > get the file as well.
>
> So? You just share the tape around in my country, and they may legally
make
> a copy
> for themselves by themselves. It`s a bit more work, but they never stop
us.
>
When I did video tape, I kept a printed catalog of everything I had. I made
it available to friends and family and they could borrow anything I had on
tape. However, tape is very finite here. All of my tapes eventually suffered
from mold incursion. DVDs and CDs don't do that.

The argument that a video recording of an HBO show is only one recording
does not wash, as it's just one recordiong out of millions that were made. I
clean out mini warehouses as part of what I do to make money. Every year I
find thousands of home done recordings from cable movie channels. We had
hundreds of them for sale at a combined family yard sale last week end.

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