Posted by Justin on 11/16/23 11:36

Michelle Steiner wrote on [Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:35:54 -0700]:
> In article <slrndro4i9.96a.nospam@debian.dns2go.com>,
> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Claiming to have lived without a car all one's life would mean
>> >> they have not used a car, at all, in their life.
>> >
>> > No it doesn't. It means that I've never owned one--not never used
>> > one.
>>
>> No, it doesn't. It may be how you intended to use the turn of phrase,
>> but if you have ever used something then you have not lived without
>> it. Without is a definite.
>
> Ok, then let me rephrase it: I've never owned Microsoft Windows or used
> it, other than incidentally, in my personal life.
>
> I have used it on the job, and when I needed to access email from a
> public terminal or a friend's or relative's computer.
>
> And that, sir, is essentially "living without it," unless one is a
> literalist.

So, in fact, you have not lived without it.

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