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Posted by jordanlund on 09/26/05 02:48

For someone so opinionated you sure don't seem to know much:

> Clinton lied about the "hundreds of thousands" in mass graves in
> Yugoslavia and killed 2,500 in his bombings.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1402605.stm
"Mass grave discoveries shift Serb mood"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1414735.stm
"New mass grave finds in Serbia"

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9908/02/yugo.01/
"Mass graves in Kosovo may hold thousands of ethnic Albanians"

> In the first World Trade Center Bombing, Clinton promised to wage a war
> on terror well...
>
> Cole - he did nothing.

OK, first off, the Cole attack happened on October 12th, 2000. Less
than a month before the election and 2 months before the election was
handed to Bush. It took a year for the Navy to finish it's
investigation into the bombing which hardly makes this Clinton's
problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

On November 3, 2002, the CIA fired a AGM-114 Hellfire missile from a
Predator UAV at a vehicle carrying Abu Ali al-Harithi, a suspected
planner of the bombing plot. Also in the vehicle was Ahmed Hijazi, a
U.S. citizen. Both were killed. This operation was carried out on
Yemeni soil, possibly with the cooperation of the Yemeni government.

On September 29, 2004, a Yemeni judge sentenced Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
and Jamal al-Badawi to death for their roles in the bombing.
Al-Nashiri, believed to be the operation's mastermind, is currently
being held by the U.S. at an undisclosed location. Al-Badawi, in Yemeni
custody, denounced the verdict as "an American one." Four others were
sentenced to prison terms of five to 10 years for their involvement,
including one Yemeni who had videotaped the attack.

> Embassies - he did nothing.

Incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings

In a federal trial in New York City that ended in June 2001, Mohamed
Rashed Daoud Al-Owhali, Mohammed Odeh, Wadih el Hage, and Khalfan
Khamis Mohamed were convicted of perpetrating the Nairobi bombing and
were sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

Two Egyptian citizens, Ibrahim Hussein Abdel Hadi Eidarous and Adel
Mohanned Abdul Almagid Bary, whose fingerprints were allegedly found on
the letters claiming responsibility for the bombings, were arrested in
London in 1999 by Scotland Yard at the request of the U.S. They were
extradited and jailed.

Other alleged conspirators in custody include Khalid al-Fawwaz, a Saudi
dissident who had been living in London since 1994. Al-Fawwaz was
accused by the U.S. of helping Osama bin Laden to coordinate the
attacks, and was ordered to be extradited. He denied the charges and
remains in custody in London pending an appeal.[4],[5].

Anas Al-Liby was thought to have been captured in Afghanistan in 2002
during the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan but it was later proven to be
false, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani is believed to have been captured in
Pakistan in 2004, and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, whose brother was one of
the suicide bombers, and who helped another of the bombers to get a
Yemeni passport, is currently in the custody of the U.S. at an
undisclosed location.

Mohammed Atef, indicted on November 4, 1998 for his role in
orchestrating the attacks, was later reported killed by U.S. bombs
during the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan.

Saif al-Adel is reportedly in the custody of the Iranian government.

> Other countries offered OBL on a platter - he did nothing.

Again, incorrect. He's done more to get OBL than Bush ever has. From
the same link above:

In response to the bombings, U.S. President Bill Clinton ordered
Operation Infinite Reach, a series of cruise missile strikes on
terrorist targets in Sudan and Afghanistan on August 20, 1998,
announcing the planned strike in a primetime address on American
television.

>Terrorists plotted while Monica squatted! So, I can (and will) say that
> he lied about fighting terror and all the people up to and including
> 9/11 died because he lied.

Did you know that the Patriot Act was authored during the Clinton term?
Yeah, I didn't think so... Do a Google search for the "Omnibus
Counter-Terrorism Act of 1995" before you open your yap again.

> Also, if you believe the "Bush lied, people died" screed, then you also
> have to believe that Kerry, Clinton and a host of other Democrats lied
> over the years as they all also stated that Saddam had WMDs.

They didn't take us to a war before the evidence was in.

> I make WAY less than 100K per year, the difference with me is that I
> don't possess the character defect of wanting to cut down someone doing
> better than me. I'd rather learn from them and someday get there on my
> own.

If you make less than $200,000 a year you have to be a moron to support
the Republicans. They don't care about you. All they care about is
padding their wallets and those of their buddies and donors.

- Jordan

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