Posted by omarenoryt on 09/30/05 20:05

jordanlund@gmail.com wrote:
> "Well, you just gave the seal of approval to Bush's war since
> Iraq was overflowing with mass graves.."
>
> Nope. Because the Iraqi mass graves were in place before the 1991 war.
> At the end of the first Gulf War we gave Saddam a pass on anything he
> did prior. As long as he kept his nose clean we would leave him alone.

As long as he followed his ceasefire, which he didn't. Try not to cry,
liar.

>
> It was only after an Iranian agent (Amhed Chalabi, you remember him,
> right?) started passing bogus info to the Bush administration that it
> all of a sudden became necessary to take Saddam out. The Bushies were
> too stupid to tell good intelligence from bad intelligence.
>
> How does it feel to be a tool of the Iranian government?
>
> "Then you top it off by saying that if I make less then 200 grand (it
> was
> 100 grand before) I'm a moron for being a Republican because they don't
> care about me.
>
> Get this straight, I DON'T WANT government caring for me. I want
> government to stay the fuck out of my way and out of my life and out of
> my pocket."
>
> The Republicans are actively hostile to anyone who isn't in their
> little group. There's a great book on the subject called "Perfectly
> Legal". I suggest you check it out. You want to be left alone? Great.
> Start voting Libertarian because it's not going to happen if you keep
> supporting the Republicans.
>
> "Let me tell you what moronic is? Voting for people that have a vested
> interest in keeping you poor and needy. Voting for a bunch of Limousine
> Liberals that live it up big on tax payers money but that's okay
> because
> they are for raising the monthly food stamp limit."
>
> You think the Republicans DONT do this? Man, you really are deluded.
>
> "Perfect example: They want to raise the minimum wage even though they
> know that when they do, most companies have a set amount of money to
> pay
> employees and when the minimum wage is raised most companies just end
> up
> cutting both hours and employees."
>
> Doesn't happen. I'm fortunate to live in a state with one of the
> highest minimum wages in the country. Know what that means? It means't
> that more people have more money to spend. The Republican notion of
> trickle down economics does not work, has never worked and will never
> work. The only way to build a strong economy is to get money into the
> hands of those most likely to spend it, i.e. the lower and lower middle
> class.
>
> "Keep feeding the monster Jordon, it's all you can really do. Or is it?
> "
>
> Keep on repeating the party line, seig heil! Meanwhile, reality is
> laughing at you:
>
> http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_econindicators_income20050831
>
> The real income of the typical household has fallen five years in a
> row, despite the fact that the last three of those years-2002, 2003,
> and 2004-have been years of economic expansion. Over these years,
> our workforce has become a great deal more productive, as output per
> hour is up 15% from 2000 to 2004. Yet, as shown in Figure 1, these
> productivity gains have failed to reach the typical household.
>
> The number and share of persons in poverty also increased last year,
> from 12.5% to 12.7%, the fourth consecutive increase since poverty hit
> 11.3% in 2000 (the end of the last expansion). Since that year, 5.4
> million more persons, including 1.4 million children, have been added
> to the poverty rolls.
>
> The key factor behind the deterioration of real household income and
> increase in poverty is the prolonged labor market slump that began in
> 2001. Although the job market expanded consistently in 2004-the
> Census report shows the addition of 1.5 million workers in 2004 over
> 2003-this addition was not faster than the growth of total households
> and not enough to absorb the labor market slack left over from the
> longest jobless recovery on record. These conditions are constraining
> the bargaining power of many in the workforce, such that the benefits
> of overall growth are failing to reach working families.
>
> In another example of the diminished bargaining power of working
> Americans, the greatest declines in health insurance coverage occurred
> in employment-based insurance, which has dropped every year since 2000.
> In 2000, 63.6% of the population had employment-based coverage. By
> 2004, this rate had dropped to 59.8%. Though some workers picked up
> health coverage through public sources or from another family member's
> coverage, nearly 800,000 more workers were uninsured in 2004 compared
> to 2003. A full 19.0% of all workers were uninsured in 2004.
>
> - Jordan

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