Posted by doc on 09/04/05 02:05

hi Specs, following this thread and hope u don't mind my jumping in here.
we have about 90hrs of HDV 1080i 24p full size dv tapes that represent a
complete 87 segment feature length movie and are ready to do the editing and
production and trying to figure the best approach to keep our project as
near to the 35mm film look (thus the 24p) and want to spec out the edit
hardware/software.

it's been recommended by other production companies to use final cut pro and
yet another avid pro and even yet another with more experience than the
other two liquid addition. the first two have given us horror stores even
to include over 1000 logged hours of disasters while the latter studio says
that their only problems are output continuity to the original project,
though it is completely possible takes some effort. but what they do say is
that editing is clear and precise and easy to learn. however, the first two
said the learning curve is harder than filming. the latter we have more
experience with than the former and thus we have little input other than it
took 3 movies to 'learn' so to speak.

so, can you comment on your thoughts as well as equipment pc vs mac and how
to keep our continuity to 24p recommendations?

doc

"Specs" <No.Spam@Thanks.com> wrote in message
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> <lgewirtz5@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I've been editing with Premiere on a PC. My hard drive is failing and
>> I'm trying to figure out where I should go next re: hardware\software
>> in an editing system. I'd like to be able to word editing for other
>> people, so I was thinking of buying a Mac with Final Cut Pro. However,
>> I'm wondering if I get AVID on the PC, will I learn AVID well enough to
>> be able to use the real thing?
>>
>
> I am an Avid Xpress Pro (XPP) user so I can speak from a little
> experience.
> I went to Avid Xpress DV from Premiere to find stability and the Avid
> interface. At the time I wanted to be a freelance Avid editor but now my
> focus is on a wider brief. Now I am considering FCP5 Studio if I get a
> Mac
> or the Adobe video collection if I stay PC. The Avid Studio product is
> unbelievably expensive and is quite frankly nothing to write home about.
> It
> is the main reason that I am look elsewhere.
>
> The Xpress Pro interface is very similar to the higher end models and can
> be
> nudged a little closer by getting hold of setup files from those higher
> end
> systems. The basic code is identical to Media Composer but has certain
> things disabled. Many features found in lower priced products are missing
> and probably won't arrive soon. XPP is the most expensive of the
> "prosumer"
> NLEs and has the fewest bells and whistles of them all. Audio editing for
> example is very limited and requires at least ProTools to get serious.
> Even
> then you require an unbelievably expensive plugin to bring the XPP
> timeline
> into ProTools. Avid XPP doesn't like pro audio cards, it does not like
> AMD
> systems nor does it like Radeon graphics cards. In fact you really have
> to
> build a system round XPP and better still but a qualified system because
> if
> you don't the warranty is invalid. Tech support won't want to know.
> Fact.
>
> The beauty of XPP is that it can be deployed in a workgroup to compliment
> MCA. In this role it is king. Being able to offline an edit on a XPP
> station for later conforming on MCA is highly desirable to many
> facilities.
> If this is you then look no further.
>
> For the same price as XPP I could have the Adobe Video Collection (Pro) or
> the Apple FCP Studio both give far greater bells and whistles for your
> money. Pinnacle LE is a very capable product with an Avid like interface.
> Very similar in many ways but miles apart in some crucial areas. Vegas is
> getting better with every release and if they give the interface an XPRI
> overhaul I'd be very interested. Edius has been mentioned and it too is a
> competent tool but lacks keyframing of filter setttings. That counts
> against it for me even though with Canopus hardware it rivals very high
> end
> products. You will need a server mainboard (Xeon) that has a separate bus
> for SP or NX hardware.
>
> Be clear on what you want. If you have pretentions of wanting to get into
> Broadcast work then a knowledge of the Avid interface is desirable. Don't
> let anyone tell you different. If you want to start your own business and
> be flexible to edit, do a bit of compositing and DVD production then one
> of
> the other products mentioned above may be better suited. FCP is not
> penetrating Avid space anywhere near as much as Apple would like us all to
> believe.
>
> Hope that helps. If you are more specific with your needs you might get a
> more tailored answer.
>
>

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