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Posted by Ty Ford on 09/19/05 14:06
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:18:57 -0400, Specs wrote
(in article <432dd816$0$1276$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>):
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> <mmaker@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1127074408.693114.252790@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Richard Crowley wrote:
>>> Thats nice, but not the primary concern.
>>> Since the audio is recorded with compression,
>>> the question is whether the de-compressed sound
>>> track will withstand post-production processing.
>>
>> I don't see why it wouldn't, given how good it sounds off the tape.
>> Certainly I've mixed HDV-recorded dialog with music, backround sound,
>> effects, etc and then AC3-compressed the soundtrack to DVD and it
>> sounds fine to me.
>>
>> Obviously I'm not a sound expert, but I wouldn't be worried about the
>> quality if you're just recording dialog on the camera, unless you're
>> going to be watching the finished movie in a cinema.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
> The fact of the matter is Crowley likes to come to this group and casts
> aspertions on the quality of the audio from the two Sony HDV cams without
> having any experience with either.
>
> He has been challenged to put hit bits where his mouth is and has not
> delivered.
>
> The audio I have heard coming off these cams is extremely noise free
> particularly when compared to my Sony PD150 with its hissy PCM uncompressed
> audio. So, what's more important lossy compressed noise free audio or
> uncompressed noisy audio?
>
> The question should be whther the audio from these cams is below the level
> Joe Public would accept after post-roduction. The simple answer is no. Joe
> Public does not generally have studio grade equipment in his front room.
>
> Remember highly compressed audio has not stopped MP3 players being a runaway
> success.
>
>
Does that mean VHS camcorders are coming back?
It pretty much depends on how many steps your audio will go through before it
hots the consumer.
Compressed audio doesn't react the same as uncompressed during simple
operations like EQ. You grab the knob and twist, expecting a particular
result and it just isn't there. If you've never tried EQing during post, you
probably haven't run into that phenomenon.
Then there's the recompression to MPEG when you burn to DVD.
Again, no one went broke underestimating the public's taste or ear. If you
have no problem with being a part of the dumbing down process, by all means,
proceed. There are, however, alternative solutions that do preserve the
audio.
A year or so from now this will all be academic because there'll be yet
another format anyway. :)
Ty Ford
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
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