Posted by ushere on 09/28/05 01:47

"Specs" <No.Spam@Thanks.com> wrote in message
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> "Moving Vision" <mv@movingvision.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> In article <43397b1c$0$73605$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net>, Specs
>> <No.Spam@Thanks.com> writes
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>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The trouble is that if things aren't spelt out for some even the
>> >> > most
>> >> > obvious visual grammar can pass unhindered over their heads.
>> >>
>> >> What part of, "it's a creative affectation that gets in the way of the
>> >> show" went over your head?
>> >
>> >Clearly your lack of media literacy limits your response.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Another thing that is blatantly obvious is why some people like to
>> >> post
>> >> to usenet.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yep, there are people who post to the use net who create themselves
>> >whole
>> >new identities who think that if they can put up a website and then
>> >pontificate about their chosen subject.
>> >
>> >My advice to that sort of person would be when using a tripod have the
>> >decency to make sure its level when shooting and learn how to edit
>> >especially if you intend to advise others!
>> >
>> >
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>> How the heck did this strand get so out of kilter? Just for the record,
>> Bill Farnsworth is a straight up sort of guy with enough solid
>> professional gravitas to be regarded with respect, regardless of the
>> differing aesthetics upon which one might base artistic judgements.
>> Personally I'm no fan of these pretentious techniques either. Seems
>> every media studies college leaver wants to make a pop video inter cut
>> with 8mm in the hope of proving to their peers that they are artists!
>> The really irritating college leaver technique that has no redeeming
>> features at all is the one where some other 'artist' is being
>> interviewed about the meaning of their new book/song/film etc sat at a
>> table with the interviewer in shot, whilst being shot by one tripod
>> mounted conventionally (correctly) set up camera and inter cut with
>> some deliberately badly hand held camera in monochrome! Now what's that
>> all about? Utter bollocks as far as I'm concerned.
>> --
>> John Lubran
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> That's all very well and true but, that's not how the "film" footage is
> being used in Globetrekker. The film sequences . All hard facts are
> given
> in "video" while the "film" sequences are being used as thinking space
> while
> the crew "travels" the next location which punctuates the programme.
>
> Using an alternative visual aesthetic is no different to using audio clues
> to illicit different responses from the audience. I have produced
> documentaries in the past that use an on screen presenter to deliver hard
> facts while employing a very well known English actor with a wonderful
> resonant voice to provide the back story and quotations. The audience
> knows
> what sort of information to accept from the two voices. Similarly visual
> clues can be used as you well know.
>
> So, I am in favour of mixed media usage providing there is motivation for
> it
> or it is to get a response from the audience but not in a contrived way
> like
> the B&W shakey-cam which, as you rightly point out, has no merit.
>
> But for people to say the film sequences are used just for style is just
> plain wrong.
>
>

so they're not bumpers?

leslie

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