Posted by AnthonyR on 09/29/05 03:55

"doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote in message
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> how would i do that? and what does it mean when you GMan says the field
> order might be backwards? what is that? and how to correct? i'd love to
> make LE work just from the multicam perspective and we'll probably go
> ahead and buy the edius 3 anywho just because i installed the trial
> version, captured, and made the output dvd for presentation in one hour
> and i had no idea what soever what i was doing other than clicking a bunch
> of buttons and see what worked and what didn't.
>
> however, for now i must be able to choose which shot angle from three
> different cameras and if i could figure out how to do that easily with
> canopus i'd sure give it a shot, because one thing i absolutely hate about
> all pinnacle products that i've tried thus far (studio 8, studio 9 =
> diasaster, and liquid edition 6) is the way they put files and parts and
> pieces of a project all over the place between the hd, the data drive, and
> the external drive. geez, trying to find a file outside of LE is like
> looking for keys after a 3 day drunk :o( thank God i don't drink anymore
> :o)
>
> doc
>
>
Hi doc,
Well the fild order is how the software starts reading the file, say 30 fps
is really 60 fields per seconds
when it's an interlaced video image, and usually the software reads the
lower field first. There should be a setting
somewhere, maybe it is reverse on your computer, I did a quick google and
found some people taking about how a codec might reverse the field order
I don't have time to research further but if you see a drop down for fild
order in LE, reverse it and see if that helps. maybe.
AnthonyR.

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>>>
>>> doc
>>>
>>> "GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dhcmsg$no2$1@news.xmission.com...
>>>> In article <9zpZe.1579$%L4.46@trndny02>, "doc" <doc@drdimento.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>nope. actually it looks great on the pc and in the camcorder pop out
>>>>>lcd,
>>>>>but on the tv it's terrible, very noticable, and actually so bad it
>>>>>distracts from the viewing, jerky, rachetting, or fragmented, (not
>>>>>pixelated) but almost like every other frame (or a few frames) are
>>>>>missing
>>>>>between each of those that are seen. almost like an old silent picture
>>>>>or
>>>>>one of those hand movies that you sorta fan. know what i mean?
>>>>>
>>>>>lacing??? hmmmmm how would i know? and how to fix?
>>>>>
>>>>>doc
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It almost sounds like your captrue device or its capture codec is the
>>>> getting
>>>> the "field order" backwards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:wogZe.842$Fc4.506@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:7Y6Ze.3780$L15.3061@trndny01...
>>>>>>> me too. geez.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> u know i'm struggling with something right now. ever capture some
>>>>>>> DV and
>>>>>>> it views fine in the software then when it's exported (or make -
>>>>>>> whichever is preferred :o) to DVD the images are choppy when there
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> pans or zooms in and out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doc,
>>>>>> you mean when you view the mpeg encoded images on the PC?
>>>>>> Cause that could be normal interlacing you are seeing, that isn't
>>>>>> visible
>>>>>> when viewed on regular tv after it's a dvd.
>>>>>> In the very beginning of dvd making, I experienced the same, and it
>>>>>> drove
>>>>>> me nuts till someone told me it was nothing.
>>>>>> Some of the cheap encoders, nowadays add a feature called
>>>>>> de-interlacing
>>>>>> or progressive capture, both avoid this effect that I am talking
>>>>>> about when viewed on a computer screen in the editing program. But
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> you are talking about something else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AnthonyR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Doc,
>> Glad you were able to burn a good dvd using the Canopus ProCoder, Canopus
>> has a great DV ang mpeg codecs.
>> But maybe the tip GMan offerred about field order being backward is
>> something to try and set in LE if you want to fiddle.
>> :)
>>
>> AnthonyR.
>>
>>
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