Posted by GMAN on 09/29/05 04:57

In article <4cG_e.5082$j_3.3511@trndny07>, "doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote:
>how would i do that? and what does it mean when you GMan says the field
>order might be backwards? what is that? and how to correct? i'd love to
>make LE work just from the multicam perspective and we'll probably go ahead
>and buy the edius 3 anywho just because i installed the trial version,
>captured, and made the output dvd for presentation in one hour and i had no
>idea what soever what i was doing other than clicking a bunch of buttons and
>see what worked and what didn't.
>

From my limited understanding of the matter, It has something to do with how
the capture begins to aquire the interlaced signal from a source. If it starts
out in the wrong order and captures the field or frame of an interlace source
in the wrong order, it can cause zig zag lines, jumpy images etc....


Heres a breif explanation of the issue.

http://www.greatdv.com/video/fields.htm

>however, for now i must be able to choose which shot angle from three
>different cameras and if i could figure out how to do that easily with
>canopus i'd sure give it a shot, because one thing i absolutely hate about
>all pinnacle products that i've tried thus far (studio 8, studio 9 =
>diasaster, and liquid edition 6) is the way they put files and parts and
>pieces of a project all over the place between the hd, the data drive, and
>the external drive. geez, trying to find a file outside of LE is like
>looking for keys after a 3 day drunk :o( thank God i don't drink anymore
>:o)
>
>doc
>
>
>"AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:pjC_e.2739$Fc4.1956@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>
>> "doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote in message
>> news:4OB_e.12804$L15.11937@trndny01...
>>> we did find a solution but just using canopus procoder and that worked
>>> and wah lah the dvd output looks just like the mini DV tape and thus
>>> we're good to go (although we wanted to use liquid edition for this event
>>> that will last for 3 years and not canopus) o well, as they say, "things
>>> happen" :o)
>>>
>>> doc
>>>
>>> "GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dhcmsg$no2$1@news.xmission.com...
>>>> In article <9zpZe.1579$%L4.46@trndny02>, "doc" <doc@drdimento.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>nope. actually it looks great on the pc and in the camcorder pop out
>>>>>lcd,
>>>>>but on the tv it's terrible, very noticable, and actually so bad it
>>>>>distracts from the viewing, jerky, rachetting, or fragmented, (not
>>>>>pixelated) but almost like every other frame (or a few frames) are
>>>>>missing
>>>>>between each of those that are seen. almost like an old silent picture
>>>>>or
>>>>>one of those hand movies that you sorta fan. know what i mean?
>>>>>
>>>>>lacing??? hmmmmm how would i know? and how to fix?
>>>>>
>>>>>doc
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It almost sounds like your captrue device or its capture codec is the
>>>> getting
>>>> the "field order" backwards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:wogZe.842$Fc4.506@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:7Y6Ze.3780$L15.3061@trndny01...
>>>>>>> me too. geez.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> u know i'm struggling with something right now. ever capture some DV
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it views fine in the software then when it's exported (or make -
>>>>>>> whichever is preferred :o) to DVD the images are choppy when there
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> pans or zooms in and out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doc,
>>>>>> you mean when you view the mpeg encoded images on the PC?
>>>>>> Cause that could be normal interlacing you are seeing, that isn't
>>>>>> visible
>>>>>> when viewed on regular tv after it's a dvd.
>>>>>> In the very beginning of dvd making, I experienced the same, and it
>>>>>> drove
>>>>>> me nuts till someone told me it was nothing.
>>>>>> Some of the cheap encoders, nowadays add a feature called
>>>>>> de-interlacing
>>>>>> or progressive capture, both avoid this effect that I am talking
>>>>>> about when viewed on a computer screen in the editing program. But
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> you are talking about something else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AnthonyR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Doc,
>> Glad you were able to burn a good dvd using the Canopus ProCoder, Canopus
>> has a great DV ang mpeg codecs.
>> But maybe the tip GMan offerred about field order being backward is
>> something to try and set in LE if you want to fiddle.
>> :)
>>
>> AnthonyR.
>>
>>
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