Posted by doc on 10/03/05 17:48

wow, seems like no matter how much i dig, study, and learn, there's always
something that i don't have a clue about. i'm certainly going to check into
this. perhaps that's the whole issue that the pro camera is setup to write
the file in a top first (or something else) while my software is set to
bottom first as indicated by it's attributes. will run a test later today
on that one and re-capture the file and/or re-write the file with the top
first instead of the bottom first default. thanks for the insight on this
and i'll report back the result.

doc

"AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote in message
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>> how would i do that? and what does it mean when you GMan says the field
>> order might be backwards? what is that? and how to correct? i'd love to
>> make LE work just from the multicam perspective and we'll probably go
>> ahead and buy the edius 3 anywho just because i installed the trial
>> version, captured, and made the output dvd for presentation in one hour
>> and i had no idea what soever what i was doing other than clicking a
>> bunch of buttons and see what worked and what didn't.
>>
>> however, for now i must be able to choose which shot angle from three
>> different cameras and if i could figure out how to do that easily with
>> canopus i'd sure give it a shot, because one thing i absolutely hate
>> about all pinnacle products that i've tried thus far (studio 8, studio 9
>> = diasaster, and liquid edition 6) is the way they put files and parts
>> and pieces of a project all over the place between the hd, the data
>> drive, and the external drive. geez, trying to find a file outside of LE
>> is like looking for keys after a 3 day drunk :o( thank God i don't
>> drink anymore :o)
>>
>> doc
>>
>>
> Hi doc,
> Well the fild order is how the software starts reading the file, say 30
> fps is really 60 fields per seconds
> when it's an interlaced video image, and usually the software reads the
> lower field first. There should be a setting
> somewhere, maybe it is reverse on your computer, I did a quick google and
> found some people taking about how a codec might reverse the field order
> I don't have time to research further but if you see a drop down for fild
> order in LE, reverse it and see if that helps. maybe.
> AnthonyR.
>
> http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:P9XOqlgtiP0J:forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-81810.html+field+order+liquid+edition&hl=en
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>>>>
>>>> doc
>>>>
>>>> "GMAN" <glenzabr@xmission.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> In article <9zpZe.1579$%L4.46@trndny02>, "doc" <doc@drdimento.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>nope. actually it looks great on the pc and in the camcorder pop out
>>>>>>lcd,
>>>>>>but on the tv it's terrible, very noticable, and actually so bad it
>>>>>>distracts from the viewing, jerky, rachetting, or fragmented, (not
>>>>>>pixelated) but almost like every other frame (or a few frames) are
>>>>>>missing
>>>>>>between each of those that are seen. almost like an old silent
>>>>>>picture or
>>>>>>one of those hand movies that you sorta fan. know what i mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>lacing??? hmmmmm how would i know? and how to fix?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>doc
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It almost sounds like your captrue device or its capture codec is the
>>>>> getting
>>>>> the "field order" backwards.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "doc" <doc@drdimento.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:7Y6Ze.3780$L15.3061@trndny01...
>>>>>>>> me too. geez.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> u know i'm struggling with something right now. ever capture some
>>>>>>>> DV and
>>>>>>>> it views fine in the software then when it's exported (or make -
>>>>>>>> whichever is preferred :o) to DVD the images are choppy when there
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> pans or zooms in and out?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doc,
>>>>>>> you mean when you view the mpeg encoded images on the PC?
>>>>>>> Cause that could be normal interlacing you are seeing, that isn't
>>>>>>> visible
>>>>>>> when viewed on regular tv after it's a dvd.
>>>>>>> In the very beginning of dvd making, I experienced the same, and it
>>>>>>> drove
>>>>>>> me nuts till someone told me it was nothing.
>>>>>>> Some of the cheap encoders, nowadays add a feature called
>>>>>>> de-interlacing
>>>>>>> or progressive capture, both avoid this effect that I am talking
>>>>>>> about when viewed on a computer screen in the editing program. But
>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>> you are talking about something else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AnthonyR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Doc,
>>> Glad you were able to burn a good dvd using the Canopus ProCoder,
>>> Canopus has a great DV ang mpeg codecs.
>>> But maybe the tip GMan offerred about field order being backward is
>>> something to try and set in LE if you want to fiddle.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> AnthonyR.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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