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Posted by Jona Vark on 11/14/05 18:04
"AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Jona Vark" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
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> >> "Jona Vark" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
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> >> > "AnthonyR" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> >> >>Because Liquid Edition uses is so very
> >> >> memory intensive it might trigger issues that you have that other
> >> >> software
> >> >> doesn't trigger.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > LOL!
> >> >
> >> > sorry.. that's not really the way computers work..
> >> >
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> >> LOL... I just read this reply Jona,
> >>
> >> Are you sure?
> >> I've been repairing computers since I built my for 8088 PC back in 1992
> >> before the 286 Intel CPU.
> >> When you have a bad memory chip it won't effect the PC until something
> >> actually accesses that memory address.
> >
> > I have been designing and building computers since about '78. No that's
> > not
> > how they work. Memory is not necessarily allocated from the bottom up.
At
> > any point you can be using any portion of memory. The assertion that
some
> > program will 'tax' a computer more than others is an analogy to
mechanical
> > devices that isn't relevant.
> >
> >
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> Jona, really? mechanical devices?
Yes.. A computer is not stressed by accesing RAM. Actually .. it is not
really ever stressed.
> Then why are RAM checking programs designed to run consecutive read and
> writes to memory> address' over and over so to detect errors that only
occur in certain
> patterns or with extreme usage and higher temperature that comes from
extreme ram usage?
intermittent errors are tested with varying bit patterns. Actually I don't
think Dynamic Ram accesses cause heat. Static Ram may. But keep in mind that
DRAM is always being refreshed.
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> So memory intensive programs (photshop, 3d apps etc) DON'T tax memory is
> what you are saying?
>
No.. they don't 'tax' memory. That's is a myth made by people who have
little understanding of how computers actually work.
If you have intermittent memory then accessing it can cause errors. If your
memory is not failing mechanically then there is no 'taxing'.
Memory allocations can not be depended upon to deliver memory to requests
for allocation in any specific order. And the likely hood that memory from
anywhere in your heap will be allocated to applications. Especially if you
are running more than one.
> I have fixed quite a few blue screen of death problems and most were
memory
> related but then again I haven't been designing and building PC's since
1978 like you. :)
But you don't know for sure what caused those errors. it could have been any
part of the memory devices or poorly designed support circuitry. Or power
supplies or any number of things.
> what did you start with the Zeus, what was that kit computer called that
was
> out in 1980?
in 1980 there were Apples. In the 70s I built computers using the 6504 and
6502. No kits. The Altair was a popular platform for the ultra-geeks. I was
involved in developing computer systems for video games and music devices.
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