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Posted by Nappy on 12/27/38 11:33

"Specs" <No.Spam@Thanks.com> wrote in message
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> "Nappy" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
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> > "Specs" <No.Spam@Thanks.com> wrote in message
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> > > Interested to read your definition of HD.
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> >
> > 1920x1080 4:4:4 10 bit
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> > HDV does not even come close. Not even nearly close.
> >
> > And I didn't even mention the audio.
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> > But Specs.. I wouldn't think this discussion would be necessary. Are
there
> > really folks out there who think HDV is HD?
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> Skillfully dodged the issues. So clearly Dv100 and HDCAM are not HD in
your
> book. OK.

I thought I was presenting my concept of what HD is!

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> No, is not necessary. I know what HD is but I was surprised at your
> elitism. HDV fullfils a role just as DV did.

There's no elitism there.. Don't mistake my disdain for HDV as elitism.
Surely none meant towards my friend Specs. .

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> I know of no one working in 1920x1080 4:4:4 10 bit.

Lots of people. D-5 Decks and a Decklink Pro card will get you there I
believe. Although I don't own one. .
but that wasn't the issue.

The preferred flavours
> at the moment are HDCAM and DVCPROHD in the places I have worked. Full
> raster HD is just too damned expensive for the extra quality (unless
chroma
> keying where it is absolutely necessary) one attains.

Depends on where you are I suppose. In Los Angeles it is not a rarity. But
you do agree that full res HD is not comparable to HDV. Which is the only
point we were trying to make actually.


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> Anyone who compares the output from a $115,000 camera to a $3000 camera is
a
> cunt. Said a DOP to me recently....

ouch. Of course I was not doing the comparison.

Ty wrote "That would be incorrrect. The Z1 is HDV. HDV and HD are NOT the
same."

He wrote that in response to mmaker saying: ..."guess the plus-point is
that the Z1 is HD, "
And I supported that notion by attempting to point out some of the
differences. Which are vast.

Then you asked me what I consider HD.. And here we are with you calling me a
cunt. In a roundabout way. Which has even less to do with the point of the
thread.




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