Posted by Smarty on 01/03/06 19:21

If anyone is interested in the 4-part HDV editor comparison article titled
"Battle of the NLEs" I cited below, please see:

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?CategoryID=54&ArticleID=10771

Smarty



"Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
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> Nappy,
>
> I would very much appreciate knowing which part of my claim is incredible.
> I am not attempting to claim that anything is magical or that HDV is
> somehow vastly different. My only point is that HDV is extremely stressing
> of hardware, and that performance of many extremely capable platforms
> including dual processor G5s, dual Xeons, etc. in HDV editing and
> rendering is painfully slow. The performance issue is often glossed over
> by the software developers and leaves the false impression that HDV can be
> edited without major computer upgrades. Certainly Final Cut Pro Studio and
> Vegas fall into this category. Scrubbing the time line or rendering are
> slow enough that many users are very unhappy with performance.
>
> I exchanged a series of emails with Jan Ozer who published a recent and
> very comprehensive 4-part evaluation of the leading NLE editors for HDV in
> eventDV Magazine over the last 4 months, seeking his impressions of
> performance and speed issues in particular. He shares your belief (as do
> I) that Ulead's Video Studio 0 product is indeed an amateur versus
> professional product, and this is certainly apparent by both its' price
> and limited feature set. He pointed out that Ulead's Media Studio Pro, on
> the other hand, uses the same HDV plugins, and may be, in fact, the sweet
> spot for both speed and features. I have yet to go that route, but imagine
> it may be a reasonable step-up for those who are impressed greatly with
> VS( speed and want to add more features.
>
> I disagree with your statement that working with HDV is "messy and slow,
> and working with it sucks.". I would be especially interested in knowing
> what tools you have tried, and how they have failed to perform.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Smarty
>
>
>
> "Nappy" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
> news:Sqyuf.45623$7h7.11943@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
>> news:8LCdne3y7YaZMifenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>
>>
>>>........he does not have the direct insight or experience to compare
>>> HDV editing software.
>>
>> That is probably an erroneous assumption. There is no magic or anything
>> to
>> editing HDV. It is simply another codec. That's all. From reading
>> Richards
>> posts over the years I can assume he gets it. Clearly.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> If he had HDV editing software expertise, I would have let his comment
>> lie,
>>> even though it was a apparently intended to reflect his opinions about
>>> "finicky" computers, older Ulead products, or something he now says is
>>> not
>>> specifically related to UV9 performance.
>>
>>
>> ULead is not viewed as a professioanl app. There is a reason for that.
>> And again.. HDV editing is nothing new. We have always been dealing with
>> new
>> formats as they arrive. Over the last 15 years there have been a few. HDV
>> is
>> just another codec. And one I don't intend to embrace. Its messy and slow
>> and working with it sucks. On Any platform. I don't know what they were
>> thinking.
>>
>>>
>>> My intention is not to win an argument here. My intention is to give a
>> good
>>> product a bit of respect when it rightfully deserves it.
>>
>> No one asked you for proof of your comment. We accept it. Glad you like
>> it.
>> Although for many of us your claim _is_ a little incredible.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Smarty
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nappy" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Plxuf.61042$tV6.18329@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>> >
>>> > "Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:lcedndX8DbqzdyTenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>>> >> Nappy,
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think it is "rediculous" to ask for proof of a sweeping
>> statement
>>> >> which trashes a product.
>>> >
>>> > Well.. think about it a moment. Most of us watch these poor souls come
>>> > through here with nightmares from these cheapo bundled apps. I have
>>> > had
>>> > ULEAD and Pinnacle stuff on my rigs in the last few years. Only to
>> remove
>>> > them because they failed to perform or made the rest of my setup so
>>> > unstable
>>> > it became unusable . I recall a recent bout with ULead's UDF driver
>>> > mucking
>>> > with my system in a very bad way.
>>> >
>>> > Don't be so defensive if someone else thinks the software you are
>>> > using
>> is
>>> > trash. I think FCP is one of the biggest jokes ever . I own it. I
>>> > bought
>>> > the
>>> > gear bought the Mac and bought the farm. After a few features we
>>> > retired
>>> > it.
>>> > But nothing I ever used from ULead even comes close to FCP.
>>> >
>>> > That's just my opinion. They're like assholes. Everyone has one.
>>> > Please
>>> > don't ask for proof of that.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > nappy
>>> >
>>> > "I hate people who quote people in their sigs"
>>> > - Ben Franklyn.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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