Posted by Bill Vermillion on 10/20/05 03:05

In article <oWu5f.4301$h25.1028@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
AnthonyR <nomail@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:IoM4ov.1LJt@wjv.com...
>> In article <Jxa5f.3481$h25.992@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>,
>> AnthonyR <nomail@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Smarty" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
>>>news:UvqdndWdIvbsusjeRVn-oA@adelphia.com...
>>>> Ken,
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly what I do Ken. I actually offered that option in a
>>>> subsequent reply, describing how I took DVDs like Goodfellow (Robert
>>>> DiNiro) and others which span 2 sides and reauthor them to 2 disks.
>>>>
>>>> I'm old enough to remember the Garrard turntable which had a robotic arm
>>>> which would flip vinyl LP albums years ago. What a monstrosity. I'm glad
>>>> this is NOT being done for DVDs.
>>>>
>>>> Smarty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>well yes because LP's had that physical connection with the needle to make
>>>but we've come a long way with electronics
>>>since those days, a laser on either side and a switching circuit would be
>>>all that is needed now but it would add to cost of manufacturing.
>>
>>>They even had lasers that can detect the physical grooves in old LP albums
>>>nowaday and convert the optical data into digital info that is then
>>>converted to music, so it can play old records without a needle or
>>>contact,
>>>and correct for scratches and avoid hiss etc..
>>>But these new record players are about $10,000 I believe.
>>>Amazing what lasers can do. Right?
>>
>> The prices I've seen for those units are 2 to 3 times that.
>>
>> And they won't play everything. It must be a vinyl disk with the
>> black dye in the vinyl as transparent vinyl disks or picture disks
>> aren't readabable.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> --
>> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

>Bill,
>You might be right, I was just guessing the price from memory,
>Yikes...that's a lot for a record player.

It is targeted to a specific market - places that have archival
storage and are fragile enough that they can not be played on
physical contact equipment without the risk of damage.

Those include a lot of old transcriptions where the lacquer can
start peeling off.

And other delicate things like the stack of 16" glass based
transcriptions I have. Those were used for live recordings on
portable recorders, and the reason for the glass was that during
WWII all aluminum was being used for making such things as
airplanes.

In many respects the glass base was better as it was much flatter -
but it is breakable.

>They do however make all kinds of corrections for pitch
>distortion and other linear anomolies which is great.

Well I have a turntable that does tempo changes flawlessly.

I've used it to take old recordings that I felt were cut too fast
or too slow and brought them into what I thought felt good. I've
played them for others and they agree with my judgement.

But then I did spend a lot of years as music director in radio
and then wound up as a recording engineer running a fairly costly
[for it's day] recording studio. The day we got it up and running
we had $850,000 invested - and that would take $3-5 Million today.
Analog studios were NOT cheap - nor were huge sound-proof rooms.

But the turntable is a Stanton ST-150. It has a built in
preamp with SPDIF outputs and is locked into the turntable speed
control and pitch. You press the lock pitch button and move the
slider and tempo changes. It was designed for DJ [club] work
but with the S-shaped tone arm it does quite well on the humoungous
stacks of '45s that I accumlated as MD over the years.

>Maybe the price will drop to $300 one day, so i can afford one?
>LOL But by then all my records will already be converted and in
>the trash as I'm doing them little at a time now.

The thing I like about this TT and I have a Stanton cartridge on
it, is that it is rugged enough and the cartridge is exposed enough
so that I can 'wet-play' the disks. Then taking the SPDIF output
and running the click supression on the software I can make decent
transfers. I avoide the noise-reduction as it's really more of a
filter and taking the 'hiss' out that so many dislike also takes
away a good hunk of the music.

Bill

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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

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