Posted by Ken Maltby on 11/16/05 22:12

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:437b74f4.66456937@news-server.houston.rr.com...
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:36:36 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
> <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> You shouldn't be doing any "rendering" with TDA, if by that
>>you mean a lengthy encoding. You could try using VideoReDo's
>>Quickfix ( with the MF option turned off) on those MF4 rendered
>>clips.
>
> Those MF4 exported clips are worthless. They won't play. Putting them
> thru VRD does no good. IOW, an otherwise good MPG clip gets ruined by
> MF4.
>
>> Then just feed them to TDA, clicking on the Blue "Add new
>>track..." text, between clips. It should take only couple of seconds
>>for each clip in Quickfix. And the usual 15-20min to write the
>>VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS folders. The MF4 clips are almost
>>DVD compliant MPEG and it's possible that TDA could use them
>>directly as they are, but I would think the few seconds with
>>Quickfix, have to be worth it.
>
> What I did was to import the clip directly from the DVD with VRD since
> I need MPGs for TDA. I also sized it while I was at it in VRD. I did
> not have to use QuickStream Fix because when you export from VRD it
> runs QSF automatically (compare the dialog screens and see).
>
> TDA then did whatever is does producing DVD-burnable files. I did not
> burn them but used WinDVD to play them. They played just fine.
>
> There is something about these particular clips that is causing MF4 a
> whole lot of grief, enough to cripple it. It goes into a blank stare
> for long periods of time (Task Manager reports "Not Responding"). I
> have not seen MF4 ever so that before.
>
> It looks like if I want that clip for my collection I am going to play
> the music video DVD from a player into a DVD recorder and burn a new,
> fully-compliant DVD copy, and work with that. Since the source DVD is
> not copy protected I will not have that issue to fool with.
>

If you have an unencrypted DVD, you can just use the
"Add DVD video..." button in TDA. Have it "Copy the
clip video data to the HDD" (to your hard drive) note or
set where the "destination folder" is, so that you can go to
that folder when TDA has finished extracting to .mpg files.
Then shut down TDA; run VideoReDo and open the
..mpg in the "destination folder". Edit out the parts you
want, outputting to a clean folder. (I have a "Redone"
folder.) Then start TDA again and use the edited clips
with the "Add files" button.

If the clips you want have good sized transitions you
could just stay in TDA and use the "Chapter cut edit"
to make cuts at the GOP boundary. (I-frame) But using
VideoReDo is much easier for extracting multiple clips
and its frame accurate.

You can add all the clips at once by using Ctrl-A on the
VideoReDo output folder. TDA will put all the clips into
the one track, but its easy to move them to their own tracks.
Just click on the Blue "Add new track..." text as many times
as you need to create the number tracks you want. Then
go to the first track with all the clips and drag&drop the clips
into whichever tracks they should go in.

If the clips you want were originally chapters on the DVD
and you checked the "Reading chapter information" box,
earlier; TDA extracted each chapter as a separate .mpg. You
can use the above steps to move those chapter clips to their
own tracks. If you just want those chapters as tracks and
can get by with GOP boundary editing, then you can do it all
in TDA.

All this assumes that you want to extract just parts of the
original DVD, and that the DVD does not already have 16
tracks. If it has more than just a few tracks, then it would
be more convenient to copy the DVD's .vob to a folder and
extract and edit with VideoReDo. Then proceed as above.

You can extract and use the "DVD video" from more than
one DVD, if you want. Taking some parts from one and
other parts from different DVDs. The easiest way is just
add them all and then hit the delete button for the chapters
you don't want.

Luck;
Ken

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