Posted by Ken Maltby on 11/17/05 07:19

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:45:46 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:36:36 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
>><kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You shouldn't be doing any "rendering" with TDA, if by that
>>>you mean a lengthy encoding. You could try using VideoReDo's
>>>Quickfix ( with the MF option turned off) on those MF4 rendered
>>>clips. Then just feed them to TDA, clicking on the Blue "Add new
>>>track..." text, between clips. It should take only couple of seconds
>>>for each clip in Quickfix. And the usual 15-20min to write the
>>>VIDEO_TS & AUDIO_TS folders. The MF4 clips are almost
>>>DVD compliant MPEG and it's possible that TDA could use them
>>>directly as they are, but I would think the few seconds with
>>>Quickfix, have to be worth it.
>>

Does quoating the above mean that the following applies
to what you are doing with the MF4 clips?


>>OK, here are the comments I snipped earlier.
>>
>>I figured out how to use "Add new track" and imported 3 clips to run a
>>test. When I was about to do the final composition I got 2 identical
>>error messages: "The combined bitrate of the clip exceeds the upper
>>limit for standard DVD." The errors applied to the first 2 clips and
>>not the 3rd one.
>>
>>I did not run the individual clips thru VRD. So I now I ran the first
>>one thru Quickfix to see if that would cure the problem. But VDR said
>>there was a PTS underflow of 169.
>>
>>I looked it up:
>>
>>+++
>>PTS underflows occur when the presentation time stamps (PTS) fall
>>behind the system clocks in the program pack stream headers(SCR). An
>>MPEG program stream has two sets of time stamps, one for the overall
>>file and another for each elementary audio and video stream. The PTS
>>underflow indicates that the bit rate for at least one of the
>>elementary streams exceeds the overall bit rate for the entire file
>>(SCR).
>>
>>A few ( < 100) PTS underflow errors will not affect the output
>>program. You can increase the overall bit rate of the file by
>>overriding the video bit rate on the Output Options dialog.
>>
>>Note: If you intend to author this file to a DVD, the overall bit rate
>>should not exceed 10 Mbps.
>>+++
>>
>>Help further says that I can access the Output Options dialog "by
>>pressing the "Options" button on the output dialog box.".
>>
>>What "output dialog box"? I cannot find any such thing. Now what do I
>>do?
>>

After you click the "Save As..." button, the "Save As"/output
window pops up. In the bottom right corner there is an "Options"
button. One of the options is "Bit Rate:", set it to 8Mbps. But
this only changes what is recorded in the header, it has no actual
effect on the video. It may make the clip acceptable to other
programs though.

>>I tried to import that fixed clip into TDA again but I got the same
>>error. So I am stopped until I learn what the "output dialog box" with
>>the "Output Options dialog" is.
>>
>>Then I have to figure out what to do with this. Presumably setting the
>>bitrate for 10Mbps will cause VRD to make it DVD compliant.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I played the 3-clip DVD I just made and the menu only has one entry.
>
> Yet it showed 3 entries in TDA.
>

Did you tell TDA to ignore the warning about two of your
three clips? If not that may be why they aren't there. How
many VTS are there, in the VIDEO_TS folder? VTS_01 ,
VTS_02, and VTS_03 or just VTS_01?

> What am I doing wrong?
>

There is certainly something wrong with the clips. We
need to establish what their parameters are. If they are
the MF4 files you passed through a two pass encoding
then you should have those parameters. ( As you said
that your source was a DVD, you should not have needed
to do that encoding, by the way. And it could be the cause
of the clips, that came from a DVD, now not being DVD
compliant. )

If the clips are not some of the MF4 clips, then were they
extracted from your original DVD? If so, how was it done?
Did you try the TDA "Add DVD video..." button process?
Did you copy the .vob to your hard drive and use VideoReDo
on them?

Luck;
Ken

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