Posted by GraB on 11/30/05 09:11

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:01:57 GMT, sales@___Email_Address_on_Web_site
(SalesMart.com.au) wrote:

>On 29 Nov 2005 20:23:53 -0800, "come_mon_come_mon!"
><come_mon_come_mon@yahoo.com.hk> wrote:
>
>>Just walked through the most popular computer shopping mall in my city.
>>Sales there recommend most for Plextor & Pioneer products. Reason is
>>they use the best components. Plextor PX-708A receives best comment in
>>one shop (probably they are promoting this product which is 6x%
>>expensive than the average) while Pioneer DVR-110 are also higher
>>recommended by many shops.
>>
>>I saw the LG 4167 model & NEC 3550 too. Many sales said LG is slower in
>>read / write speed compared with Plextor & Pioneer models. Also, one
>>sales told me that ASUS model (I forgot if it was DRW-1608P2S) is good
>>or popular because it has employed pioneer parts.
>>
>>Yet, they all agreed that LG, NEC, Plextor, Pioneer & ASUS are stable
>>products (common comments of sales towards products displayed in the
>>show window :p)
>>
>>Not sure how true these sales talk about. Just quote here for
>>discussion reference.
>
>The LG 4167 and Pioneer 110 series urgently require firmware to burn
>at the correct speeds. The LG 4167 with firmware DL11 burns a full
>disc in 5 mins 19 seconds but anything under 4Gb and it slows down by
>quite a bit. Firmware DL12 corrected this but a full disc burn now
>takes 6 mins and 8 seconds. The LG 4163 with firmware A105 is perfect.
>
>Pioneer drives have been brilliant right up to the 109 series with the
>latest firmware versions that is. The 110 series should become as good
>as the previous models when the firmware is updated in the next two
>weeks. I would advise hanging off until the next firmware update for
>this model. I will be posting the burn speeds of 16X with the new
>firmware for this drive in the aus.dvd news group as well in my
>members support section.
>
>If you can get your hands on a LG 4163 then that is the drive to get
>as the last firmware A105 makes this a very good drive. The LG 4163
>for burning to 16X media is the fastest out there and supports writing
>to DVD-RAM media.
>
>Once you start using DVD-RAM for DATA backing up you'll use it most of
>the time unless you have USB2 hard drives that is.
>
>I have about 12 different DVD burners attached to my PC.
>
>Since selling the Pioneer drives from the 104/A04 to the current
>models I've never had a single request for warranty work or on the
>LG's since the LG 4082 drives.
>
>It all depends what you are going to be using it for.
>
What specifically is the advantage of DVD-RAM? Why do you think it so
good for data backups over DVD+R?

The sheer speed of the burner is irrelevant if you are interested in
quality burns.

I have a Lite-On SOHW-812S which I crossflashed to 832S. I have just
flashed it with the latest firmware from CodeGuys. You can load this
firmware in Omnipatcher and set some tweeks that will speed up the
burn, but the CodeGuys firmware is optimized for quality of burns and
they recommend you don't go for the speed tweeks.

As this is an 8x burner I burn the readily available 8x media.
Different media performs differently, as other threads here testify.
I used Laser (OptodiscOR8) media and found it burned very well at 8x
with only a slight improvement in quality if dropping the burn speed
to 6x or 4x. But unfortunately the local supplier can no longer
supply these discs so I have tried some SonyD11 blanks. The burns I
have had from these discs are slightly inferior to the Optodisc burns
and dropping the burn speed to 4x helps to close the gap. You don't
have to burn everything at the maximum speed of the burner.
Sometimes, you will have to test it yourself with different media with
your burner, slower burn speeds can give a better quality burn, which
is what we all want, isn't it?

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