|  | Posted by Joe on 12/18/05 04:16 
I guess I have to top post, since there would be a jumbled order becauseof Biz's top posting.
 
 I asked:  Why is the DVP 642 so big?
 
 Biz: If its too big, buy another player
 
 Biz:  I assumed you were being a smart ass
 
 Well, stop assuming so much.  Even after my comment that big might
 indicate better cooling or more chips, you persist in:
 
 Biz:  How small do you want it to be?
 
 Biz:  If its too big for your needs, you look for smaller alternatives
 
 Man, chill.
 
 I brought up the point about cooling, and you talk like you are telling me
 all about it:
 
 Biz:  enough free space inside to help with cooling sinc emost are
 passively cooled
 
 Biz:  I was being 100% sincere in my previous reply
 
 Maybe sincere, but with an attitude created by your assumptions.  The case
 for the DVD player is bigger than some laptop computers.  I wondered why.
 You offered nothing of a real answer in your first reply, and even now,
 you really offer nothing new.
 
 ---  Joe
 
 
 In article <DW3pf.33889$7h7.22014@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, "Biz"
 <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
 > I assumed you were being a smart ass, but I tried to answer your question
 > honestly.  Its  9.3 x 17.1 x 1.7 , which is pretty standard size today, in
 > fact most av components are generally around 17 inches wide or so for rack
 > mounting.  My Pioneers are both about 9 x 16.6 x 1.85 inches.  My older
 > retired Toshiba was actually a lot bigger.  Cyberhome 300 is  9.1 x 8.75 x
 > 2.0, so its taller, but narrower and you couldnt rack mount it since its too
 > narrow, way to go Cyberhome...
 >
 > How small do you want it to be?  I think they are too small now(especially
 > in height) and dont have enough free space inside to help with cooling sinc
 > emost are passively cooled, thats IMHO on reason why they die so much faster
 > these days.  Thats the reason I pointed out all the things that most normal
 > DVD players have on them, you mentioned nothing more than a 5.25" tray,
 > dictating certain size limits necessary to get things the like a readable
 > display, a full size tray, usable front panel controls by actual adult human
 > fingers, and all the outputs on the back.  If its too big for your needs,
 > you look for smaller alternatives..I was being 100% sincere in my previous
 > reply, and YOU chose to take it the way you did....
 >
 >
 > "Joe" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote in message
 > news:nobody-1712051415140001@pool1319.cvx3-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net...
 > > In article <waSdnb1BPqjy7zneRVn-gg@ez2.net>, "John Mycroft"
 > > <mycrofts@hypercon.net> wrote:
 > >
 > > > This group appears to be populated by a bunch of foul-mouthed people who
 > > > like to believe that, because their knowledge is superior to yours, they
 > > > have the right to call you, among other things, an idiot and a "fucking
 > > > troll".  They don't bother to read your original question but reply to
 > > > unhelpful replies that they post.  A more miserable bucnh of jerks (they
 > > > called me that, too) you will need to go a long way to find.
 > > >
 > > > My sincere thanks go to the folks like daviesvideo@aol.com, Adrian A and
 > > > Marv Soloff who took my question as seriously as it was posed.  I will
 > > > certainly follow your advice.  But I did not ask for the abuse I got
 > from
 > > > Eric Gisin & Biz.  I do hope they frow up one day.
 > > >
 > > > For the record, Idiot Man, the camera that cannot be attached via USB to
 > a
 > > > computer attaches just fine via USB to my laptop as described in the
 > manual.
 > > > Kinda makes you wonder who the idiot really is, doesn't it.
 > > >
 > > > Merry Christmas
 > >
 > > Funny that you should mention Marv Soloff - his was a real jerk's answer
 > > to the first question (Why is the Philips DVP 642 so big?) that I have
 > > ever posted to this newsgroup.
 > >
 > > In the same thread, Biz was superficially correct, but hardly helpful.
 > > "You've got a circuit board, power supply, the back
 > > panel has to be big enough to carry all the connecters, adn the front
 > panel
 > > needs to be big enough for a proper display, plus all the buttons....If
 > its
 > > too big, buy another player"
 > >
 > > Hey, Biz, *ALL* DVD players have the items you mentioned.  So that is a
 > > crappy non-answer as to why the Philips is so big.
 > >
 > > In case anyone knowledgeable reads this, I was wondering if the Philips
 > > DVP 642 possibly had a better layout as far as heat dissipation, or maybe
 > > had more chips than some other DVD players - you know, the kind of thing
 > > that might have some relation to quality or reliability.
 > >
 > > ---  Joe
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