Posted by Deke on 11/15/56 11:39

"w_tom" <w_tom1@usa.net> wrote in message
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> Deke wrote:
> > ...
> > And they do work, regardless of what you think.
> > I live in a very rural area, and last summer a very close lightning
strike
> > to a tree behind the house resulted in the death of several surge
> > protectors, but no damage to the
> > items plugged into them (electronics, freezer, refrigerator).
>
> Deke - its not what I think. It is what I know from decades of
> experience preceded by professional training. In your example, clearly
> every smoke detector, bathroom GFCI, dishwasher, doorbell, clock radio,
> and dimmer switch also were damaged. After all, they were not on
> plug-in protectors. What protected them if not on plug-in protectors?
>
> They were protected by 'invisible' surge protectors. Those
> protectors must be invisible to make your claim.
>
> Returning to reality: appliances already have effective internal
> protection. Disconnect those appliances from a plug-in protector and
> the "electronics, freezer, refrigerator" also would have been protected
> by 'invisible' protectors - or by existing internal protection.
>
> You have assumed that everything was subject equally to a destructive
> transient. More electrical concepts. To be damaged, an appliance must
> be in a path from cloud to earth. Therefore a VCR may be damaged, but
> an adjacent TV not damaged. Been there - seen it. How can this be?
> Was TV on an 'invisible' protector while VCR was not?
>
> You did not demonstrate "electronics, freezer, refrigerator" would
> have been damaged. For your example to be valid, then literally
> everything not on a protector must have been destroyed. So the
> microwave oven, garbage disposal, and dishwasher was destroyed? Smoke
> detector, recahrgeable flashlight, and electric clocks all destroyed?
> If not, then why not? 'Invisible' protectors?
>
> From years of real world engineering, from tracing destructive
> transients. from fixing damaged electronics by learning the path from
> cloud to ground, and from building protectors that did (and sometimes
> did not) provide protection. No way you can claim that plug-in
> protector did what even its manufacturer does not claim - without also
> citing 'invisible' protectors.
>
> If your reasoning is valid, then I advise you to patent those
> 'invisible' protectors. No one has been able to prove what you have
> just claimed. Using your reasoning, then you have discovered
> 'invisible' protectors. Or those plug-in protectors did not perform as
> you have only assumed.
>
Where did I say that nothing was damaged? Actually, there was quite a bit
of damage, from coffee pots, microwave, dryer, washer, waterbed heater, and
other things I cant recall. But everything that was expensive, or a pain in
the butt to replace (60" tv, vintage electronics, new electronics, satellite
receivers, freezers, refrigerator) was plugged into
surge protectors, and was not harmed. Thats proof enough for me.
I now also have a surge protector installed at the power pole to my house.
It was installed by the power coop, but it will only protect transients
coming thru the power grid, not originating on my side of the meter, such as
a lightning strike.
As I said, I live in a very rural area, surge protectors are widely used in
this area, and they work. Even the local power coop sells the power strip
type. Most all my neighbors have protectors on their well pumps, and so do
I.
If what you say is true, I suggest you file a class action suit against all
those dirty rotten scamming companies that make surge protectors. Since
none of them work, according to you, you could be a billionaire.
Have a nice day.

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