Posted by Deke on 11/15/83 11:39

"William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <4b716$43ea408f$943f8239$2435@STARBAND.NET>,
> "Deke" <no spam@today.com> wrote:
>
> > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> > news:clark.31-DE9487.09254908022006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > In article <abfa3$43e988df$943f8239$25394@STARBAND.NET>,
> > > "Deke" <no spam@today.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> > > >
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> > > > > In article <1f3fe$43e833cb$943f8239$27144@STARBAND.NET>,
> > > > > "Deke" <no spam@today.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > "William A. T. Clark" <clark.31@nospamosu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > >
> > news:clark.31-C47994.14313906022006@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > > > > > I happened to be unlucky enough to be given a JVC DR-MV1S
DVD/VCR
> > > > > > > recorder as a Christmas present a little over a year ago. The
> > thing
> > > > has
> > > > > > > never worked well; when you could figure out the Byzantine
manual,
> > it
> > > > > > > still didn't seem to function properly. Finally, and before
the
> > > > warranty
> > > > > > > ran out, I returned it to JVC In Aurora, IL to be fixed. At
the
> > time
> > > > > > > there were two issues (that I could find, at least). One, I
could
> > not
> > > > > > > get a signal to the DVD recorder, other than by dubbing from a
> > tape in
> > > > > > > the VCR side, and two, it refused to recognize DVD-RW disks,
even
> > > > though
> > > > > > > it ha done so for several months.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I sent it back in mid-December with a note outlining the two
> > problems.
> > > > > > > It came back "fixed" ten days later. At least, I thought so.
It
> > turned
> > > > > > > out it still would not recognize a DVD-RW disk, giving the
dreaded
> > > > "disc
> > > > > > > error" message. So I called JVC again (another story in
itself).
> > The
> > > > > > > representative was very helpful when I finally reached him,
and
> > said
> > > > > > > they would send me a UPS mailer to return it to them in
Aurora. I
> > did
> > > > > > > this three weeks ago. Since that time, all I see on their
repair
> > site
> > > > is
> > > > > > > that it is "waiting for parts". I would far rather have my
> > original
> > > > > > > outlay back, and buy a properly functional DVD/VCR, but just
to
> > have
> > > > > > > this thing sitting in the repair facility with nothing
happening
> > is
> > > > > > > ridiculous. Oh, yes, and if you e-mail the contact address you
> > finally
> > > > > > > find - they just don't bother to answer anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All I can say is to all readers of this ng - 1) stay away from
JVC
> > > > > > > products until they deal with shoddy design and manufacture,
and
> > 2)
> > > > > > > their service is as bad as their manufacturing. Never again -
no
> > JVC
> > > > > > > ever in my house.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > William Clark
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sorry about your experience, but my JVC DR-MV1s has transferred
a
> > ton of
> > > > VHS
> > > > > > tapes to DVD, and has been used almost daily for recording on
> > DVD-RW, as
> > > > > > back-up for my
> > > > > > DVR, and its NEVER made a coaster. Its also made more than a
few
> > DVD-R
> > > > > > copies of
> > > > > > D-VHS tapes, recorded on my 7 year old JVC HM-DSR100 satellite
> > reciever.
> > > > > > I've also transfered some S-VHS tapes
> > > > > > from my JVC HR-S3900 S-VHS machine to DVD-R. Some of those
were
> > made
> > > > as
> > > > > > far back as the late 80's, on a Zenith S-VHS machine, made by
JVC,
> > which
> > > > > > still works, but has an incredibly slow FF and RW, compared to
> > machines
> > > > made
> > > > > > today.
> > > > > > My point is, the first production runs of the DR-MV1s seem to
have
> > had
> > > > some
> > > > > > software problems.
> > > > > > But dont condemn a company, because you have a problem with JUST
ONE
> > of
> > > > > > their products. At least they are trying to repair your
machine,
> > and
> > > > trust
> > > > > > me, replacement parts for common failure parts can be hard to
come
> > by.
> > > > I
> > > > > > have NEVER had a problem with any of my JVC products.
> > > > > > JVC still holds the patents for the VHS video recording system.
> > Every
> > > > > > company that has ever made a VHS tape machine of any kind, has
paid
> > JVC
> > > > a
> > > > > > royalty.
> > > > > > So give JVC some slack. Go look at one of the JVC D-ILA
> > > > > > HD televisions, compare it with anything else on the market, and
> > you'll
> > > > see
> > > > > > that JVC still makes some incredible products.
> > > > > > Just my two cents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peace
> > > > > > Deke
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, I think this would work fine - if it would work. I transferred
> > some
> > > > > tapes to DVD and once I figured out the instructions, it did a
very
> > nice
> > > > > job. The problem is that it is simply unreliable.
> > > > >
> > > > > JVC knows full well all the problems that the DR-MV1S has, from
the
> > > > > "loading" hang up on down. When these machines first came out the
> > trade
> > > > > magazines gave them a very high rating (on the basis of which my
wife
> > > > > bought one for me). Once the consumer feedback started to
accumulate,
> > > > > those ratings dropped like a stone. JVC should, for the good of
their
> > > > > own image, just have pulled all those, refunded or replaced them
with
> > > > > another model, and learned by the experience. At least, if I send
a
> > unit
> > > > > back with clear descriptions of the two problems that need to be
> > fixed,
> > > > > I don't expect it to come back with one of them untouched. And
then
> > sit
> > > > > for three weeks in the repair facility on its second go round.
> > > > >
> > > > > only wish that my DR-MV1S worked as well as yours does. I hope
that,
> > > > > when I eventually get it back, it will.
> > > > >
> > > > > William Clark
> > > >
> > > > I sincerly hope it does too. According to the trade papers and
mags,
> > this
> > > > one machine has become a bit of a thorn in JVC's side. I'm assuming
you
> > > > have a high quality surge/spike protector (or several, in series)
that
> > your
> > > > equipment is plugged into? Voltage spikes can play hell with
> > soft/hardware.
> > > > And as far as your "loading" problem not being fixed when you got it
> > back
> > > > from the shop, are you aware that the "loading" problem will
sometimes
> > > > disapear if you unplug (NOT turn off) the unit for a couple hours?
The
> > > > loading problem may not have manifested itself while it was in the
> > shop.
> > > > The DR-MV1S does seem to be very sensitive to noisy power lines, and
> > > > transient spikes.
> > > >
> > > > Best Wishes
> > > > Dennis Kelley
> > >
> > > Actually, I don't have the "loading" problem that seems to have been
the
> > > principal scourge of these machines. Mine were to do with a lack of
> > > signal to the DVD recorder, even though it would record from the same
> > > source just fine onto its VCR. The service rep. I spoke to seemed to
> > > think that it was a problem with the DVD tuner. The other one is that
it
> > > won't recognize DVD-RW discs any more (it used to), and gives a "disc
> > > error" message. I really want to use the DVD-RWs for stuff I either
> > > don't want to keep forever, or that I want to transfer to my computer
to
> > > edit and process in iMovie. The standard DVD-R discs work fine, but
they
> > > aren't reusable.
> > >
> > > At least the annotation against the job on their service site has
> > > changed from "waiting for parts" to "started" as of yesterday.
> > >
> > > I'll keep you posted.
> > >
> > > William Clark
> >
> > The VHS section will only record from the tuner, or the front or rear
> > composite video inputs, no choice. However, if you try to record on the
DVD
> > side, using the front jacks for example, you have to go into the menus
to
> > tell it which jacks to activate, S video, or composite. Unless you do
this,
> > if you have a composite video input going in to the front jacks, but in
the
> > utility menu you have the front inputs set to S-video, the composite
input
> > remains dead. Switching is not automatic. Same for the back inputs.
Sound
> > familiar?
> > The manual tells you to do this, (page 67-68) but doesnt tell you how.
(duh)
> > DVD mode-setup-function setup-video in/out-arrow down to
> > Front Aux F-1-enter-choose s-video or video-setup to exit.
> > Does this ring any bells?
> > As for not recognizing DVD-RWs, no clue.
> > Dennis
>
> Yes, I should have been clearer - I am not actually using the tuner,
> since my "input" is actually S-video plus audio from my cable box (or
> satellite) sent to the L-1 input. Then it is a matter of selecting VCR
> or DVD, assuming each is set up correctly for S-video on L-1.
>
> My repair is now showing "invoice issued", which I hope is not really
> true, since it should still be under warranty. Let's hope.
>
> William Clark

I just double checked, then triple checked, the vcr side wont accept a
s-video input. Composite only. Only the DVD side will accept a s-video
input. Source selection is in the DVD
option side only, not the VCR setup menu.
Good Luck!
I'm off for two weeks in Florida.
Dennis
s-video input.

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