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 Posted by Alpha on 11/18/05 21:26 
"Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message  
news:MPG.1de7ec357da0d92f98a126@news.nabs.net... 
> Goro (evilninjax@yahoo.com) wrote in alt.video.dvd: 
>> I think this refers to the DMCA and DVD fair use copying.  If I want to 
>> make a backup copy for personal use (fair use), that is legal, however, 
>> using (say) DVDDecrypter to break the CSS is a DMCA violation 
>> regardless of intent. 
>> 
>> Correct Me If I'm Wrong Here. 
> 
> You are, but only because that's how the studios want you to think. 
> 
> DMCA is merely an revision to US copyright law (mostly it added chapter 12 
> to 17 USC, but there are some other changes, too), and it still lives 
> within that framework. 
> 
> Specifically, the text in 17 USC 1201(c)(1) says that you can still use 
> "fair use" as a defense to a copyright infringement case that concerns 
> the rest of 17 USC 1201.  The DeCSS writers tried to use this, but they 
> weren't sucessful because they were actually being sued for contributory 
> infringement because they distributed a "device" to break an encryption. 
> 
> But, an individual would almost certainly be able to use "fair use" to 
> defend using DVDDecrypter (as your example) to copy a DVD *if* the reason 
> really was "fair use" (e.g., they were creating a copy of a DVD they own 
> to build their own DVD jukebox on their PC).  If they were renting movies, 
> making copies, returning the movies and keeping the copies indefinitely, 
> then that wouldn't be "fair use". 
 
The DeCSS group is suing DVD Jukebox manufacturers under the DMCA.  Are you  
saying 
that if an individual builds a jukebox, it probably is covered? 
 
Another hypothetical:  What if someone is studying in school Copalla, for  
example.  Can that individual 
extract excerpts from the Copalla DVDs to study side by side on their  
computer? 
 
I mostly have only read 17 USC 1201, and you know this better than I do.  I  
am curious what you think. 
 
> 
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