Posted by Alpha on 03/02/06 07:33

"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:41:53 GMT, no@none.com Gave us:
>
>>On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:43:55 -0500, Impmon <impmon@digi.mon> wrote:
>>
>>>On 1 Mar 2006 04:37:30 -0800, syofcdyagwrq@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Story here that copying DVDs for personal backup may be legal under
>>>>'fair use', if it uses a method which dodges the DMCA.
>>>
>>>That is still a grey area. IMO I think personal backup should be
>>>allowed as long as you keep the original with the backup (original
>>>under lock and key if you wish) and that you should not sell the
>>>backup or pass it around.
>>>
>>>There has been debate over fair use for personal backup copy since VCR
>>>and computer disks and was never settled because everytime a new
>>>format comes out the big companies try to get the court to punish
>>>everyone for making a single backup copy.
>>
>>
>>Of course a backup is legal. When you buy the DVD, you have purchased
>>the intellectual property.
>
> Nope. You have purchased a license to USE the intellectual property
> that is imprinted on the disc. Period. You own the plastic and a
> right to watch the movie in the plastic.
>>
>>Indeed, if your copy was destroyed, it would be legal for you to make
>>a copy from a rental, friend, etc. because you still own the
>>intellectual property.
>
> Nope. It is legal to make a downconverted copy but a bit for bit
> copy is illegal.
>
>>Of course, if you sold, lost, or gave away the orginal, you no longer
>>own it.
>
> "Destroyed" IS "lost". You want a backup? Buy another disc.
>
>>As far as disabling copy protection goes, that is illegal. So just
>>how you would make the copy is another issue.
>
> It is illegal to make a bit for bit copy of a DVD.

Not true. It is illegal to defeat the copy protection. Fair use still
exists.

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