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Posted by gaffo on 12/28/35 11:31

moviePig wrote:
>
> Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
>
> > I noticed as I read down most of this thread that there were no
>
>> complaints about theaters that do not project Film but project digital
>> images from what I presume is some sort of DLP. Back in the mid
>> 1990's I had a had heard that the some of the multiplex chains were
>> installing some type of Digital Satellite receiver and recorder
>> (optical Disc was the term I think) . That the movies in the future
>> were to be downloaded from Satellite and that if a movie had to be
>> changed for any reason it could be re-edited and over night the new
>> version could be distributed to all the theaters.
>> When I was younger I used to see trucks delver the film to the
>> theaters in cans that the reels of the movies were transported in. I
>> do not see that now. I do live in a Major metropolitan area with
>> Many Many theaters.
>>
>> The last few movies I have seen at an actual theater were in some of
>> the brand new multiplex theaters that been built in the last 5 years.
>> The Movies have were not properly masked so we were treated to what
>> is called "Dot Crawl" at the bottom of the screen as well as some
>> Macroblocking mysterious green lines and a Washed out look, all of
>> which I have seen before on improperly set up TV's and Monitors.
>> The last movie I saw at a Theater was War of the Worlds and that again
>> was not a projected Film but some sort of DLP. The picture quality at
>> that theater was pretty good so I will be interested in the DVD
>> version to see how it compares.
>> Just my 2 cents worth FWIW
>
>
> I, too, noticed the conspicuous absence of any mention of DLP, which,
> e.g., seems particularly relevant to earlier-discussed issues of
> old/scratched/rare film... and maybe relevant even to incompetent
> projectionists.





I mentioned it in an earlier post in this thread.





> Re DLP's quality, the argument has heretofore been
> "DLP's not as good as film"... but that's increasingly turning into the
> more mystical "DLP's *not* film".





black levels are getting better - still not as good a film (yet).




> I know that, today, a 35mm frame does
> carry more bandwidth... but a finger in the wind suggests the
> approaching demise of that advantage. E.g., I think that Texas
> Instruments recently released a 1080-line DLP chip vs. their previous
> 780(?)-line champ.






yep. new 1080 chip (really 540 but relecting tricks make it look like
1080).....just as the 480 line one I have (optoma H31) is really 240.


........the 1080 THREE chip dez has been out and used by commercial
theaters for a few yrs now. 30,000 grand or more.


only new thing is that TE is releasing a 1080 for consumer level TV
use........note there will still be a color wheel (i.e. one chip only).
Unlike the commercial theaters which use three chips (one each for R,G
and B).

I personally could care less, since BlueRay is 5 yrs away and a similar
Jon Jonhanson is probably 10 yrs away.

Note that DVD looks as good (better really) on a 480 DLP than a 720 one.
no scaling = better picture.







It seems plain to me that soon we'll be paying a
> theater to see an exactly-like-DVD movie, but merely early, and
> *possibly* at higher-res than we can afford to show at home.





yes probably higher rez than even BlueRay by next decade. i'd be
surprised if TE does not release a 2160 by then for commercial use.

............or maybe not. theaters may simply become extinct (in the
sence that there is no money to be made and so no new tech investment).

relagated to niche indie markets? (fine by me - I prefer
indie/international/animation films) we will see.




And,
> though heretical, my belief is that (eventually anyway) nothing but
> nostalgia will be lost...



yep.



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