Posted by Steve on 04/28/06 04:01

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:08:42 GMT, ian <ian@nospam.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:12:22 GMT, Robert Baer
><robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>SalesMart.com.au wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:10:51 +1000, "Axel VK" <axl@pigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Groucho" <nowhere@home.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:4bbq89F102hkpU1@individual.net...
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>>>>>"Axel VK" <axl@pigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4450a353$0$30731$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Groucho" <nowhere@home.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By who's criteria ? Yours? The 109 was fine but the 110 was crap, with
>>>>>>>well documented unresolved problems as far as burning a lot of 16x media
>>>>>>>at 16x. The 111 is too new and firmware still immature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmm. I've got a 110 and have not had any problems whatsoever.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then you've merely been fortunate not to encounter media it dislikes or
>>>>>winds the rated speed back on is all.
>>>>
>>>>I never burn any faster than 4X anyway so there may be issues that I'm not
>>>>aware of.
>>>
>>>
>>> I always set the burns to the max. Saves 10 minutes in burn times:)
>>> My older computer never reached 16X speed swhere my new computer
>>> has no troubles. Some older computers will never get to 16X burning
>>> speeds for an internal DVD burner.
>>>
>>> The Pioneer DVR-110 and 16X speed media.
>>> There are 32 brands of DVD-R 16X speed media and 30 brands of DVD+R
>>> 16X speed media. Only about 5 burn at 16X at 16X on the 110 drives.
>>>
>>> The new Pioneer DVR-111D/111/A11XL drives had the same problems on
>>> release where only a handful of brand names would burn at 16X.
>>>
>>> The older Pioneer DVR-109's burn most brands of 16X at 16X.
>>>
>>> Bare in mind that DVD 8X speed media is getting fazed out for only 16X
>>> speed media.
>>>
>>> Pioneer released a new firmware update for the 111's in firmware 1.19
>>> This new firmware burns 17 brands of 16X at 16X. The other 12 brands
>>> burn at 12X, 8X or if its not even in the firmware then it drops back
>>> to 4X.
>>>
>>> I stopped selling the Pioneers around mid January as every update that
>>> was suppose to fix these burning speeds up never came out for the 110
>>> drives. So I had to test many brands of other burners before I was
>>> happy enough to sell them. There was a period of over a month where I
>>> did not sell any DVD burners at all as I was in my testing faze.
>>>
>>> I'm happy enough to sell the 111's now though.
>>> Pity Pioneer Australia are only selling the 111D and the A11XL drives.
>>> I wish they would only bring in the 111 drives.
>>>
>>> The Pioneer DVR-111D - can't write to DVD-RAM media.
>>> The Pioneer DVR-111 - can write to DVD-RAM media.
>>> The Pioneer DVR-A11XL - can write to DVD-RAM media.
>>>
>>> I wish Pioneer would increase their CDR burning speed to 48X like what
>>> many other brands have done.
>>>
>>> If I was buying right now I'd get the Sony DW-G120A drives.
>>> In fact a bought in a couple extra of these for my computer recently.
>>> Overall more happy with the latest Sony drives.
>>>
>>> SalesMart.com.au
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> http://www.salesmart.com.au
>>> *******************************************
>>> Email Contact info on the above site.
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>>>
>> ???Sony??? *after* their rootkit BS????
>> Ya gotta be nutz.
>
>Sony don't use liteon drives. They switched to lg.
>
>At work we bought in a fair few 110 pioneer drives and have had
>nothing but problems with them. We tried the 111 drives too and they
>do not handle faster medi ato well. The sony drives are very good.
>We have 5 tower cases with sony drives and not a single failure.
>Many other mates we know use lg or sony over pioneer.
>
>You got to be nuts not knowing how good these sonys are:)

Actually the Sonys are mostly made by BenQ, which is why they're so
good.. <g>

...Steve ..

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