Posted by nappy on 01/12/80 11:48

"Mr. Tapeguy" <mr.tapeguy@pro-tape.com> wrote in message
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>
> nappy wrote:
>> "Mr. Tapeguy" <mr.tapeguy@pro-tape.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> > I have never ONCE used a source that you considered valid.
>
>> true.
>
> Thank you for reinforcing my point.
>>
>> > Not my own
>> > experience nor that of my customers or colleauges.
>>
>> What experieince would that be.
>
> Now you KNOW I was a sports editor. Of course, you've poo-pooed my
> degree and the 20+ years I've been in the industry. I'm just a
> salesman, remember?


Yeah.. film degrees are a dime a dozen here.. sorry.. not YOUR degree, film
degrees in general..

You did post that it was only 15 years.. Has this thread been going on that
long.. for five years? ( I started as a recording engineer in 1975, but
who's counting.. )



>
>> >Not DV Magazine,
>> > nor Videomaker nor Consumer Reports nor the Wall Street Journal.
>>
>>
>> Two amatuer ad rags and the Wall Street Journal. Hmmm.. I'm convinced.
>
> Your opinion - not fact. Pinnacle and lots of other NLE's adverstise
> in the "ad rags" - yet Videomaker gave their best ratings to Apple and
> Sony Vegas.

Means zip to me. They're advertisers . Videomaker is a beginner's magazine..
like the Weekly Reader. Are you sure you want to use that as your benchmark?
Craig.. it's Videomaker!



They only have so many slots to be "bought" and not every
> review out there is up for purchase. I particularly love all the times
> I've mentioned positive reviews of OS X "Tiger" which you conveniently
> fail to mention.

Reviews in magazines mean nothing at all. Most of those people only spend a
day or two 'reviewing' something and the really do not actually use the
stuff. It is largely bullshit. And they never actually reveal the bad news.
If any of these publications were actually honest they would not survive.
That's the way it really is. In my 50 years I have yet to see an honest
review where the companies are actually taken to task for some of the crap
they sell and roundly trounced.. like Apple should have been more than once
by now.



> The truth is that there are people, qualified and
> experienced, who like things that are different than what YOU like.


No Really?

> That doesn't make THEM (or you for that matter) wrong, except in the
> fact that you think THEY are all wrong.

No.. Craig.. it is my opinion.. Or are you saying that because someone gets
paid $150 to write a review for some ad rag that my opinion is irrelevant?
I'm ok with that too. Doesn't matter to me. Not sure why you would even go
on and on about my opinion but .. ok..



>> Yes.. a grat many of them idle in film student's apartments. But they are
>> there.
>
> And I guess everyone hates them or they're too ignorant to know any
> better.

You may assert that if you wish. I never did.. Again.. the term 'first time
user' is not derogatory.



>
>> > What makes you think your absurdly biased view of
>> > the world carries any credibility?
>>
>> There's nothing absurd about it. And as you may have noticed.. i am not
>> alone.
>
> You are not alone in preferring PCs. You are pretty much alone in the
> fervor to which you fail to acknowledge anything good about Apple ever,

Alone? Seems that are others even in this thread who have the same attitude
towards Apple. You've been taking part in it and even responded to some of
them.. did you forget that?


> Apple has significant market share in video, audio and graphics.
> That's my point. And not everyone buys them because they are students
> or too stupid to know better. Some people actually prefer them and
> with legitimate reasons, just as there are legitimate reasons to prefer
> PCs.


You said they were too stupid to know better. Not me. That's not a very good
debating tactic actually. I said they were first time users. Is that stupid
to you? I don't think a salesman should have that attitude towards first
time users.



>
> So does Avid, Pinnacle (in the past), Adobe, Canopus, blah blah blah.
> A magazine review should not be one's SOLE source for making a decision
> but they are worthwhile for gathering information while comparing
> products.

No.. reviews should be taken with a grain of salt as they are rarely done
completley and honestly. SImply looking at how the money flows through a
magazine.. even the lamest of them like Videomaker, should be enough for any
reasonable person not to take them very seriously.




>
> There! I've run rings around ya logically!


OOh yeah.. you sure have.

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