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Posted by John on 06/02/06 18:45

Bob wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:43:31 -0400, "John" <Johnnospam@spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>> this illegal war based on lies
>
> The Iraq War was not illegal nor was it based on lies.
>
> You have been brainwashed by the pinko commie media.
>
> Here's the truth if you want to know.
>
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:5:./temp/~c107lIlYEE::
>
> +++
> Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of
> 2002 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)
>
> H.J.Res.114
>
> One Hundred Seventh Congress of the United States of America
>
> AT THE SECOND SESSION
>
> Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday,
> the twenty-third day of January, two thousand and two
>
> Joint Resolution
>
> To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.
>
> Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and
> illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of
> nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the
> national security of the United States and enforce United Nations
> Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;
>
> Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a
> United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq
> unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear,
> biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and
> develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;
>
> Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States
> intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that
> Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale
> biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear
> weapons development program that was much closer to producing a
> nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;
>
> Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire,
> attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and
> destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development
> capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors
> from Iraq on October 31, 1998;
>
> Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded
> that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened
> vital United States interests and international peace and security,
> declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its
> international obligations' and urged the President `to take
> appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant
> laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its
> international obligations';
>
> Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security
> of the United States and international peace and security in the
> Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of
> its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to
> possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons
> capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and
> supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;
>
> Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations
> Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its
> civilian population thereby threatening international peace and
> security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account
> for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an
> American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully
> seized by Iraq from Kuwait;
>
> Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and
> willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations
> and its own people;
>
> Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing
> hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States,
> including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush
> and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and
> Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the
> United Nations Security Council;
>
> Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility
> for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests,
> including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known
> to be in Iraq;
>
> Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist
> organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and
> safety of United States citizens;
>
> Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001,
> underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of
> weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;
>
> Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons
> of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will
> either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the
> United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international
> terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that
> would result to the United States and its citizens from such an
> attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend
> itself;
>
> Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990)
> authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations
> Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant
> resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that
> threaten international peace and security, including the development
> of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United
> Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security
> Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population
> in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991),
> and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in
> violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);
>
> Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq
> Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President
> `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security
> Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of
> Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669,
> 670, 674, and 677';
>
> Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it
> `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of
> United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent
> with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq
> Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian
> population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and
> `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability
> of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of
> all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security
> Council Resolution 688';
>
> Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed
> the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United
> States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi
> regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace
> that regime;
>
> Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United
> States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our
> common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary
> resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council
> resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and
> security will be met, or action will be unavoidable';
>
> Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on
> terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist
> groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in
> direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and
> other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it
> is in the national security interests of the United States and in
> furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations
> Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of
> force if necessary;
>
> Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on
> terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested
> by the President to take the necessary actions against international
> terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations,
> organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided
> the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored
> such persons or organizations;
>
> Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take
> all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist
> organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who
> planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that
> occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or
> organizations;
>
> Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take
> action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism
> against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint
> resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law
> 107-40); and
>
> Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States
> to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf
> region: Now, therefore, be it
>
> Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
> United States of America in Congress assembled,
> +++

No lies? Well lets try to remember a few untruths. This war was planned
well in advance of 911. Had nothing what so ever to do with 911 although
many still believe that it did. Iraq was never a threat to the US in any
way. The US sent observers to prove there were but one after the other came
back with the same story. Not there. There has never been any evidence of
any WMDs. Tired of that old worn out bunk anyway. The US people were told
that the oil in Iraq would pay for the war and the US would see the price of
oil going down. There were supposed to be flowers thrown at the troops. It
would not take long to defeat this country. All along the lies grew and
changed from HAD WMDS to Would like to have WMDs to wants to kill US. "They
hate us because we are free. They hate freedom". Bush and Rummy and Condi
ALL used terror to justify this war saying (paraphrasing) "The Mushroom
Cloud" words when they all knew it was not true. I can show you the videos
of them all saying this if no one remembers. I watched Rummy lie on Meet The
Press.There were nothing but lies spewed from this administration to justify
the invasion. Things have gone from tragic to horrifying and there is no
hope at this point although some would like you to believe the end will
result in victory for the US. Bush has already said he plans on passing this
along to the next guy in charge. Some plan hey?

http://cbs13.com/topstories/topstories_story_152112207.html

Lies about Saddam gassing his own people. The US Army reported that it was
NOT Saddam shortly after it happened.
http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/siteinfo/newsround/iraq2.html

Clinton had the peace and Bush whacked it away.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/egypt-israel_treaty.html

Rummy and Saddam were buds.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

We do not belong there and must leave now.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13140.htm

This is only a sample of the lies and decption.


http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqvideos.html#VIDEOS

Need more?

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