Posted by Martin Heffels on 06/03/06 19:45

On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:39:53 -0700, William Davis <davisbill@mac.com>
wrote:

>You sound like a bunch of grumpy old men sitting on a porch in some
>small town saying ?ids these days, they don't know NOTHING, why when I
>was I kid?

No, I sound like a disappointed man. Disappointed because MTV used to mean
something! But that is long ago, long before the beancounters started
joining their gang.

>The truth is that there's not a SINGLE ONE of us who, when we were 16 or
>17 and offered a paid internship on the Carson Daily show, wouldn't have
>felt like we'd died and gone to heaven.

I don't know that show, so can't comment on that one.

>And as to the incessant carping about the ?hakeycam?technique,
>personally I haven't seen that on a tape from anyone in about ten years!
>Hell, in the young girl's work I referenced in the initial post
>EVERYTING on a shot on sticks.

Maybe you should watch some more tv? Especially MTV.

>I still think the truth is that the industry is changing around us yet
>again. No different than when the PortaPack took ENG out of the studio
>and into the streets.

Yeah, more crap on even lower standard camera's. Is that something to be
happy about? Is this positive?

>I'm sure there were a bunch of old farts back then arguing that any
>camera not on a studio pedestal tripod was only capable of crappy,
>shakey shots.

Darned, where they right :-)

>For all the good that argument did.
>
>Look, I'm a card carrying old guy too. But I'm not a stupid old guy. And
>I hope I never get so old I lose my ability to see things that might be
>fresh and new and give them an honest evaluation to see if they might
>mean something to my practice.

Shakeycam is not "fresh and innovative" you know. It's been around since
the mid 80's. That would be 20 years.

>I'm really surprised at this thread. It's like throwing a party and as
>you walk through the living room, nobody's talking about art, or music,
>or movies, or creativity, they're all just sitting around grumbling
>loudly about Social Security or discussing their recent bladder
>operations.

:-) That's what you get with a bunch of old men!

cheers

-martin-
(all for new things too, you know)

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