Posted by RichardK on 06/12/06 12:39

NRen2k5 wrote:
> RichardK wrote:
>
>> NRen2k5 wrote:
>>
>>> RichardK wrote:
>>>
>>>> NRen2k5 wrote:
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>> Your idiocy is noted - you can't play Napster tracks on an iPod and
>>>>> that was my point. I guess you completely missed the "refuted,
>>>>> goodnight".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reason you can't play Napster is that they use a protection
>>>> scheme that isn't supported by 70% of shipped personal digital music
>>>> devices.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And there is no reason for that other than that Apple doesn't want
>>> anything cutting into iTMS profits even one bit.
>>
>>
>> Napster could run without protection.
>>
>>>> The reason that the 70% of devices are iPods is partly that
>>>> Napster's terms are absolutely dreadful and restrictive compared to
>>>> iTMS.
>>>
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>>
>> Yes. First, they use WMA. That means that without flip4Mac installed,
>> I can't play their stuff on my Mac.
>
>
> Nobody uses Mac.

Retard.

>> iTunes is available for Windows and Mac. Secondly they only have 2
>> million songs; iTMS has over 3 million.
>
>
> Which says absolutely nothing about them being "dreadful and
> restrictive"; it only says that iTMS has more content.
>
>> Napster supports 3 computers. iTMS supports 5, IIRC.
>> Napster supports 5 burns of a playlist. iTMS supports 7.
>
>
> Both of which are good as far as DRM goes.

iTMS is better.

>> And the model where you actually own the songs, rather than subscribe,
>> costs just the same.
>
> The same.

But for WMA files. Which are only of use to Windows users. Unlike iTMS,
which is of use to both Macintosh and Windows users.

>> You have to buy it all over again if you want to cancel your membership.
>
>
> No. It works very well: The music which you really like, you buy. You
> use the subscription service for flavour-of-the-week songs. It's a good
> deal.
>
>> Screw that.
>
> Trust an Apple user to have the reasoning abilities of a child.

So, I'm still outdoing you then ;)

>>> Which part of it do you purport to belong to Apple?? The FairPlay DRM
>>> which was made by Veridisc, or the AAC content which was made by
>>> MPEG? Or maybe iTunes, which was made by Casady & Greene?
>>
>>
>> None of that; the bringing together of ALL of that, plus the iPod ;)
>
> Exactly - it isn't Apple's technology.

Apple own the technology - if Veridisc own it, perhaps THEY should be
licensing it...

>>> Once you buy an iPod, your only online music store is iTMS. This is,
>>> what, the twentyfifth time I've had to repeat this?
>>
>> And the twentyfifth time you've been wrong, too.
>> http://www.emusic.com/ (with thanks to the guy that pointed me at that).
>
> Find music that people actually want to buy there.

Pixies, Atom & His Package... just for a quick look. Regardless, you're
wrong. The store even promotes that it works with iPods.


>> No, I didn't only check Amazon. But have you actually looked at the
>> prices of these devices lately? The Zen Touch 20Gb is £199. THe
>> Toshiba thing is £269 for a 40Gb - Apple's device is £269 for 60Gb in
>> most places.
>
> Do you only look at the prices to tell me which ones come out more
> expensive than the iPod in your little corner of the world?

Show me what's cheaper than. Not for piddling little memorystick shite,
but proper, 60Gb devices that can compete on price, form factor and
performance with the iPod Video.

And, whilst you're at it, find me something that works with your
advocated WMA files with a 20hr battery life. Not 20hr maximum, but
20hrs of WMA playback. The Creative devices return less than half their
stated battery life under WMA playback.

Richard

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