Posted by Gary Tait on 06/13/06 01:57

"FatKat" <robynari@juno.com> wrote in news:1150079195.735993.175300
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:


> AA batteries are easier for everybody to replace. Cheaper too. And
> that's putting aside the initial pricetag of each player.

But you have to keep replacing them. You only have to replace a LiPo
battery once in a long while, supposing the rest of the player survives.

>
> Whereas the CD player can work without resort to any apps whatsoever.
> Except for that crowd that thinks that Windows file manager is a 3rd
> party app.

See below.

>>
>> > With an MP3-CD player, all
>> > you need is your computer's file manager.
>>
>> For the simple act of putting MP3s on CDRs or a Flash player, yes.
>>
>> But you have to get the MP3s somehow, and that means some sort of
>> ripper/encoder, or and online store (some requiring their own app),
and
>> if DRM is involved, its player.
>
> did somebody say P2P? Okay, piracy aside, DRM is likely going to be
an

I didn't say P2P, I said somehow. P2P means you need a P2P app.

> issue for everybody. However, I've manages to rip & tear for years
> already - there's tons of existing software on the internet.

Something which iTunes does.

> What does
> iTunes really offer you? That is, if I didn't own an iPod, would I
> want iTunes anyway? Thing is, neither answer makes the case for iPod

You can create and organize your music collection and make MP3-CDRs
easier.

> if iTunes was so great with an iPod, I'd just integrate it with my
> existing player; if it wasn't, then iTunes wouldn't be any reason to
> get an iPod. Everybody I know whose into music already has stacks of
> CD's because they've already gotten most of the music
> they want - ITMS adds nothing for them, and iPod even less.

Good for them.

>> They aren't unnecssary, but thay are optional also. And if you are
>> enterprising or can shop, you can make you own, or buy cheaper
>> unlicensed accessories.
>
> Or use an existing alternative that obviates the need for those
> accessories, or I already have, or....

>>
>> Unecessary to the marketplace, no, as Apple has advanced personal
media
>> players from a geek device to a lifestyle (mostly in marketing mind
>> you), possibly creating a place for the cheaper players.
>
> There's no argument from me that Apple has achieved in the marketing
> world something like the Wright Brother's & the formula for Plutonium.
> It's a massive achievement on the excutive side. I'm just concerned
> with whether iPod offers the consumer any reasonably comparable leap
in
> player technology.
>

Compared to your MP3 CDR, yes, but there were flash and HDD players
before Apple.

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