Posted by NRen2k5 on 06/13/06 04:36

G.T. wrote:
> RichardK wrote:
>> NRen2k5 wrote:
>>
>>> RichardK wrote:
>>>
>>>> NRen2k5 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> RichardK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NRen2k5 wrote:
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your idiocy is noted - you can't play Napster tracks on an iPod
>>>>>>> and that was my point. I guess you completely missed the
>>>>>>> "refuted, goodnight".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason you can't play Napster is that they use a protection
>>>>>> scheme that isn't supported by 70% of shipped personal digital
>>>>>> music devices.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And there is no reason for that other than that Apple doesn't want
>>>>> anything cutting into iTMS profits even one bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Napster could run without protection.
>>>>
>>>>>> The reason that the 70% of devices are iPods is partly that
>>>>>> Napster's terms are absolutely dreadful and restrictive compared
>>>>>> to iTMS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. First, they use WMA. That means that without flip4Mac
>>>> installed, I can't play their stuff on my Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody uses Mac.
>>
>>
>> Retard.
>>
>>>> iTunes is available for Windows and Mac. Secondly they only have 2
>>>> million songs; iTMS has over 3 million.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which says absolutely nothing about them being "dreadful and
>>> restrictive"; it only says that iTMS has more content.
>>>
>>>> Napster supports 3 computers. iTMS supports 5, IIRC.
>>>> Napster supports 5 burns of a playlist. iTMS supports 7.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both of which are good as far as DRM goes.
>>
>>
>> iTMS is better.
>>
>>>> And the model where you actually own the songs, rather than
>>>> subscribe, costs just the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> The same.
>>
>>
>> But for WMA files. Which are only of use to Windows users. Unlike
>> iTMS, which is of use to both Macintosh and Windows users.
>>
>>>> You have to buy it all over again if you want to cancel your
>>>> membership.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No. It works very well: The music which you really like, you buy. You
>>> use the subscription service for flavour-of-the-week songs. It's a
>>> good deal.
>>>
>>>> Screw that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Trust an Apple user to have the reasoning abilities of a child.
>>
>>
>> So, I'm still outdoing you then ;)
>>
>>>>> Which part of it do you purport to belong to Apple?? The FairPlay
>>>>> DRM which was made by Veridisc, or the AAC content which was made
>>>>> by MPEG? Or maybe iTunes, which was made by Casady & Greene?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> None of that; the bringing together of ALL of that, plus the iPod ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly - it isn't Apple's technology.
>>
>>
>> Apple own the technology - if Veridisc own it, perhaps THEY should be
>> licensing it...
>>
>>>>> Once you buy an iPod, your only online music store is iTMS. This
>>>>> is, what, the twentyfifth time I've had to repeat this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the twentyfifth time you've been wrong, too.
>>>> http://www.emusic.com/ (with thanks to the guy that pointed me at
>>>> that).
>>>
>>>
>>> Find music that people actually want to buy there.
>>
>>
>> Pixies, Atom & His Package... just for a quick look. Regardless,
>> you're wrong. The store even promotes that it works with iPods.
>
> White Stripes, Interpol, New Pornographers, The Arcade Fire, Raconteurs,
> Green Day, The Futureheads, The Fall, Yo La Tengo, Pere Ubu, Geraldine
> Fibbers, almost the entire Bloodshot Records catalog, a ton of old
> school punk, The Mekons, a ton of techno, a ton of classic bebop and
> free jazz, John Zorn, Nels Cline, I have 68 albums waiting to download.

And none of that is music that anybody wants.

- NRen2k5

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