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Posted by Joshua Zyber on 06/21/06 22:50
"asj" <kalim1998@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1150856547.946314.121550@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> www.avsforum.com
>>
>> Go to the Blu-Ray sections and marvel at the sheer volume of people
>> voicing their disappointment.
>
> How many times are you going to use a FORUM as some sort of proof.
Hey jackass, I didn't point out that forum to you so that you could
start spamming there too. I'll warn you that AVS is a moderated forum,
and the owners don't take kindly to trolling behavior like yours.
> There are obviously two camps here, and citing a forum filled with
> both
> sides is not considered "proof" of anything.
>
> I cite news reports showing that HD-DVD is falling flat on its face,
> with slow sales and Warner cutting HDDVD titles, you give me a FORUM.
> Great job.
You want a "review". Here's a fun one, from a site that's been a big
Blu-ray cheerleader for the past year or more:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents
"Well... I've had my first experience with Blu-ray Disc, and Samsung's
BD-P1000 Blu-ray Disc player. For the record, I have four titles on
hand... The Fifth Element and The Terminator (from Sony and MGM) and
Lord of War and Crash (from Lionsgate).
You know how I keep saying that these formats are being rushed to market
about a year before they're ready? And you recall how hard I was on the
HD-DVD camp for their klutzy launch and buggy hardware? And you know how
I said that Blu-ray Disc looked like the superior format, at least on
paper? Well... unfortunately, the Blu-ray camp has dropped a dud with
their big launch too. Every bit as klutzy as HD-DVD. Think Clark Kent
klutzy, or Gerald Ford klutzy, or Chevy Chase playing Gerald Ford
klutzy."
....
"Now it's time to look at my first Blu-ray Disc. Naturally, my hand
swerved towards The Fifth Element. The title was an amazing bit of
reference work on standard DVD, and that Superbit version was awesome.
Obvious choice, right? Should look amazing in HD. Yeah... it should. But
it doesn't. In fact... I'm not going to come out and say it looks like
crap, but it is easily the worst looking high-definition title I've seen
yet, and I've seen 30+ titles now. The image is muddy looking, lacking
in crisp, clean detail. The colors don't quite pop off the screen like
they should. Just a mess. Okay... I will say it. It looks like crap.
Sony should never have released this title like this. In fact, they
should be embarrassed about this disc. Seriously, if you compare the
upscaled Superbit standard-definition DVD to this, the Blu-ray Disc
looks only marginally better. This should have been a reference title in
high-def and it's not even in the ball park. My brow furrowed in
troubled surprise at this point. Wow... and not the good kind."
....
"There are some problems I'm seeing right away with all of the Blu-ray
Disc titles on the BD-P1000. First, when I switch to 1080i, I'm noticing
some very obvious scaling issues that I don't see when the player is set
to 720p. I also don't see anything like this on the Toshiba HD-A1 at any
resolution, so this is specific to THIS player, which may be why Samsung
ships it with 720p set by default. Second, I'm noticing a very slight
"studdering" problem. About once a second, or maybe once every few
seconds, the video seems to hesitate for just a instant - a tiny
fraction of a second. You notice it most when the images on screen are
moving quickly, or when the camera is panning. It may be that this issue
is related to the first. Still trying to figure out what I'm seeing
here. Lionsgate's Lord of War was the title where I noticed it first,
and I'll have to check them all before knowing whether it's just this
title or all of the discs. Again, it's not something I've seen on any
HD-DVD titles thus far."
....
"I think I may end up giving Round One of this format war to HD-DVD, and
that surprises the hell out of me. Sure, that Tosh HD-DVD player was a
lemon until the firmware upgrade, but it's worked like a charm since.
And the first 25 or so HD-DVD discs I've viewed just look better overall
than the first 4 Blu-ray Discs I've seen. The HD-DVDs also have a LOT
more extra features than the Blu-ray Discs"
....
"I keep hearing these comments (both official and unofficial) from
Blu-ray execs saying that they're leaving off the extras so they can
give all the extra disc space over to the best video quality possible.
Which tells me that Blu-ray is having major disc space problems. I've
heard from more than a few industry sources that Blu-ray is having
trouble getting the dual-layered BD media to work, which means that
discs with lots of extras and good video quality aren't an option now.
It also means that longer movies aren't an option now either. Both are
problems for this format that don't seem to be troubling HD-DVD at the
moment - at least not at first glance, based on the initial title
offering."
....
"I'll have more to say about Blu-ray Disc and the Samsung player in the
next few days, as I spend a little more time with it. But so far, I'm
less than impressed."
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