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Posted by doc on 07/03/06 11:15

Well folks, we gotta get outta here, it's just turned into another wildfire
support of Mac the minute someone says that Mac's have problems just like
PC's but that people spend more or Mac's and they shouldn't falil - - "you
get what you pay for" so to speak.

Moreover, we landed yet a third TV show now (from a former Mac house)
because of our turnaround time and thus I just don't have the time to listen
to you all defend Mac's when we KNOW THE TRUTH . . they're just like a PC
when it comes to failures.

DrD

"William Davis" <davisbill@mac.com> wrote in message
news:davisbill-D97244.12591101072006@news.west.cox.net...
> In article <acCdnUHGKohMkzjZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Rick Merrill <rick0.merrill@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Tapeguy wrote:
>>
>> > Rick Merrill wrote:
>> >
>> >>Mr. Tapeguy wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>... FCP
>> >>>and Avid have no substantially different learning curve unless someone
>> >>>is familiar with one and not the other. If anything, it is more
>> >>>common that I hear FCP is more intuitive but regardless, it is my
>> >>>belief that they are not substantially different. ...
>> >>
>> >>How can you judge the "learning curve" based on what you "hear" and
>> >>"believe?" Not that we don't all do the same thing, but you feel so
>> >>strongly about your subjective guesses that you impugn the other guy
>> >>saying, "you've made a statement that makes absolutely no sense."
>> >
>> >
>> > That's easy. I have worked a little with Avid and a little with FCP
>> > and I talk to Avid and FCP editors every day. Therefore not basing my
>> > statement solely on the basis of ONE opinion, mine or anyone else's,
>> > but rather the broad spectrum of opinion I gather from experienced Avid
>> > and FCP editors. This has a great deal of similarity to the issues I
>> > have with Docs blanket statements that Apple is not what it represents.
>> >
>> > Still you have a point. With apologies to Doc, perhaps saying "your
>> > statement makes no sense" was too strong. I will retract that and say
>> > I am very skeptical because I have NEVER run into a description of the
>> > comparative learning curve between Avid and FCP that remotely compared.
>> >
>> > I have never insisted that Doc is making his story up but there are
>> > some simple truths about Apple that can't be denied. Overall they are
>> > rated consistently #1 in lowest rate of repairs, #1 in customer
>> > satisfaction and they rate highly in many categories. I don't believe
>> > they would have the market share they have in video, audio and graphics
>> > if their solutions consistently didn't work or were substantially more
>> > difficult to learn than everyone else's.
>> >
>> > I hear critiques of Final Cut all the time and they have never included
>> > "it just doesn't work" or "boy it sure was difficult to learn" outside
>> > of the newsgroups.
>> >
>> > As I've said before, maybe you buy a Honda or Toyota and it's
>> > constantly in the shop. Does that mean all Toyotas and Hondas are crap
>> > and the salesmen lied to you when they said they made the best car?
>> >
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> > http://www.pro-tape.com
>> >
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> I have a question of my very own: Can Any Apple product handle MXF
>> files!?
>
> Via translation (Flip4Mac) and recent announcements (Apple/Sony announce
> XDCAM drivers for FCP) pretty much.
>
> From Apple's web site last week:
>
> Final Cut Pro is First NLE to Support Native XDCAM HD Editing
> Sony is introducing a new transfer software for use with the Mac OS X
> v10.4 "Tiger" that provides native interoperability between Sony's XDCAM
> HD Professional Disc system and Apple's Final Cut Pro nonlinear editing
> software. The software will be available free of charge online from
> www.sony.com/xdcamhd and will be demonstrated by both companies during a
> 12-city tour that begins today.
>
> XDCAM is MXF at it's core.
>
> I'm not particularly surprised that Apple might have been a bit
> reluctant to rev all their products to parse MXF data natively
> considering the HUGE investment they made in inventing and supporting
> Quicktime.
>
> I have a very limited understanding of the technologies, but from what
> I've read, MXF is essentially just a non-Apple branded "re-invention" of
> EXACTLY what Quicktime has been doing flawlessly for a long, long time.
>
> Still, The Apple/Sony XDCAM announcement and current joint roadshow is a
> pretty clear sign that MXF and Apple will play nice together.

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